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Author Topic: TSU 306 - the restoration begins  (Read 13907 times)
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« Reply #30 on: 01 April, 2020, 07:56:15 AM »

Hi

Thats really useful thanks

Hope all is well with you
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« Reply #31 on: 01 April, 2020, 08:06:07 AM »

Aurelias have a similar thing to hold the brake rod but its made from spring steel sheet. Its under no tension or pressure if fitted correctly and so should last for ever .....but I have seen quite a few broken ones on disassembly of rear brakes.. I wonder exactly how they can be fitted incorrectly?
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« Reply #32 on: 03 April, 2020, 02:04:05 PM »

Not sure about that, but my original idea where they should go wasn't right. Rears now in, bled and sorted. Car turned round and fronts next.
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« Reply #33 on: 04 April, 2020, 11:10:53 AM »

I was going to start sorting the front brakes out today, but the universal pullers I have would require my making something to fit over the wheel studs, and this would take a while. So does anyone have a picture of the right puller, or can point me in the right direction to buy something (eg https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/8026514421?iid=152740638505&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=152740638505&targetid=876869733809&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007256&poi=&campaignid=9446165506&mkgroupid=93977252377&rlsatarget=pla-876869733809&abcId=1140486&merchantid=7283384&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiMeB-8vO6AIVTdTeCh1R2A6IEAQYAiABEgISe_D_BwE) . Or, should I simply hire from the club's tools supply?

I did search the forum for pictures/description, but there was nothing definitive

Any advice would be appreciated
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« Reply #34 on: 04 April, 2020, 12:44:35 PM »

Here are a couple of pullers - the first I bought on eBay a while ago and has Lancia codes - it fits Appia and Aprilia (maybe others) and the lower one is a homemade version

The top one I use all the time, it works a treat !


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« Reply #35 on: 04 April, 2020, 04:42:45 PM »

thats useful. I'll have look at what old brake discs and chod I have knocking around
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« Reply #36 on: 05 April, 2020, 07:57:41 AM »

Yesterday I spent a satisfying day sorting out the front steering linkage, and worked out why there was a knocking noise on fullish lock. In towing the car the front linkage bar had obviously got bent out of shape, and there was evidence of some score marks from where it was hitting a castle nut. So with two blocks of wood and my heavy boot I got it straightened out. Problem solved. I replaced the silent bush on the short linkage arm. I am a few dust O rings away from that job being sorted. Very satisfying to clean all the linkages/bushes.

Then the next job - following the front brakes - will be to replace the gear linkage bushes, which looks like I will need to shrink my hands somewhat.

I have to remind myself all the time that this isn't a restoration, but simply getting the car to a useable and safe state. Ed (my brother and co-owner) and I still think that overall the body is beyond economic repair (it needs four new wings for a start, and who knows what lurks underneath!). Hence, best to tidy it up as best we can, improve the mechanics and then hopefully at some point get hold of a car/body shell that maybe spent all its life in the Sahara! Or until I win big on the premium bonds!
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« Reply #37 on: 05 April, 2020, 08:36:05 AM »

This is the puller I use for removing the Appia brake drums. At the front it might need adding a 10 mm socket to the tip which is a bit too large and might push on the bearing rather than the axle, Andrea


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« Reply #38 on: 07 April, 2020, 08:27:12 AM »

Thanks Andrea. Useful. I have bought something cheap which I hope will sort. I didnt have a brake disc that I could cannibalise.

The steering linkages are almost sorted bar a locking tab and dust O rings. I now understand the eccentric bolt on one side. This presumably is to adjust toe-in etc. Now I have to work out and understand how to measure and set this! The picture below shows the side where two bars attach and there seems to be a gap between them. Have I got this right I wonder? I forgot to take a photo beforehand.

The other photo is of the gear linkage rubbers replacement, which I am halfway through. I removed the manifold and dynamo which was necessary. I look forward to adjusting it as getting reverse has always been tricky.

The other photo is the throttle linkage from the peddle to the lever that travels to the other side of the car and actuates the rod working the carb. I wonder if this simple cable is correct; it seems very un-Lancia like? The parts diagram I have only shows the right hand drive cars which don't have the lever stretching over the sump. Can anyone illuminate whether something is missing?


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« Reply #39 on: 07 April, 2020, 11:55:52 AM »

Looks about right all the clever stuff is on the other side going up to the carb...optical illusion but is it touching the exhaust?
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« Reply #40 on: 07 April, 2020, 03:24:51 PM »

I should have mentioned that the exhaust is detached and not in correct position, because I have the manifold off

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« Reply #41 on: 09 April, 2020, 06:17:22 PM »

Another day, another few steps forward

I started the water pump refresh today. I thought it would be good to get a fresh seal on it and though the bearing needed replacing. It turned out that its the dynamo that needs sorting, which I'll send off. I have the additional instructions in the manual for water pump strip, and I managed to get the impeller pin out with no issues, but the impeller doesnít seem to want to come off and I canít work out a safe way of getting it off. Given that it doesn't leak and the bearing is fine, I think I'll just clean and re-gasket it and put it back on.

I took the exhaust down pipe off properly, and have arranged to get a new one made in stainless. As you can see from the picture below, the existing one looks like it has been found in a Saxon hoard of weapons and other artefacts.

I also cleaned the front of the engine. It came up very well, and very easily.

Btw rocker covers: crackle finish or au naturel? I have seen both on these pages, but would prefer as original.


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« Reply #42 on: 09 April, 2020, 08:18:03 PM »

Turns out that I do need to replace the seal, since my brother assures me that the water pump has weeped water for a long while. So, if anyone has any suggestion with regards to safely removing it I would be grateful
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« Reply #43 on: 10 April, 2020, 03:27:12 PM »

The word is you can destroy the pump dismantling it...try soaking it in Coca Cola or vinegar to dissolve the products of corrosion...or wack it with a big hammer!
The consortium has brand new exhaust downpipes available now if you need one.
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« Reply #44 on: 11 April, 2020, 06:57:09 AM »

OK, I have been warned

I'll have one of those downpipes then!
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