Lancia Motor Club Forum Banner
08 December, 2019, 08:34:07 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Kugelfischer Injection  (Read 1822 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
colinw
Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 63


« on: 11 June, 2017, 12:19:58 PM »

I am looking at buying a Flavia Coupe with Kugelfischer Injection.  Once set up properly I believe they do not give too many problems but if they do who can I turn to for service in the Sussex / Hampshire region without having to go to the known people in Norwich.  Any advice most welcome.  I am sure some will say take it out and fit a carburettor.
Logged
brian
Megaposter
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 204


« Reply #1 on: 11 June, 2017, 06:50:34 PM »

Not aware of servicing facilities down south but Kugelfischer also on Peugeots of similar vintage [404] so possible overlap there.
There are several members of the Flavia Consortium who have well-sorted cars so worth checking there.

Brian
Logged

Brian Hands


1922 Hands Tourer
1934 Augusta standard saloon
1938 Aprilia S1 saloon
1953 Aurelia B10
1965 Flavia Sport
DavidLaver
Permanent resident
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 3908



« Reply #2 on: 11 June, 2017, 10:21:08 PM »


Not for Kugelfiuscher but in the hope that as far as classic fuel injection specialists "its a small world" he might know who is...

http://www.kmipetrolinjection.co.uk/index.htm
Logged

David Laver, Lewisham.
JohnMillham
Rebel Poster
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 923



« Reply #3 on: 12 June, 2017, 01:50:24 PM »

I had one back in the 1970s which was utterly reliable, once sorted out. It gave 32 mpg frequently and went like stink. It took three of us to the Nurburgring in 1976, towing an Austin 7 on a trailer. Regards, John


* MillhamRoadwithFlavia-a.jpg (1123.98 KB, 3848x2320 - viewed 109 times.)
Logged
lancialulu
Press Officer
Permanent resident
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3616



« Reply #4 on: 12 June, 2017, 08:46:34 PM »

I am looking at buying a Flavia Coupe with Kugelfischer Injection.  Once set up properly I believe they do not give too many problems but if they do who can I turn to for service in the Sussex / Hampshire region without having to go to the known people in Norwich.  Any advice most welcome.  I am sure some will say take it out and fit a carburettor.

The world expert in KF is in Norfolk and not who you think! Google Lucas Developments. He is a busy man taking care of Porsche AG historic racing injection sytems (KF) but very helpful if approached in a commercial way (i.e. He is not prone to "freebies"). Yes you have to get the pump to him or the car but it will be worth it. He got my injector back to life in a couple of hours. I did the rest (removal/refit). Car started on the button after being dormant some 10 plus years.
Logged

Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia HFR
1972 1600 HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1978 Transformer HF3000 Strato's replica
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi.e.
ColinMarr
Permanent resident
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 1543



« Reply #5 on: 13 June, 2017, 08:08:53 AM »

I am pleased to hear that KF expertise is still available. My experience is that once set up properly the KF system is brilliant and well worth persevering with. As someone once said - 'more moving parts than most cars' and very clever for all of that. Please don't go the carburettor route!


* FlaviaGWood.jpg (432.74 KB, 2016x1520 - viewed 97 times.)
Logged
bobhenry999
Megaposter
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 258


« Reply #6 on: 22 June, 2017, 09:15:42 PM »

 I had an 815 Coupe about ten years ago that I bought from Geoffrey Burgon (PZT 555) that was fitted with Kugelfischer Injection and it ran beautifully for the time that I owned it, with no problems at all. Geoff was a lovely and very interesting man, sadly no longer with us.

On another note, I do sense that in some posts here there is a somewhat negative vibe about "The people in Norfolk" (We all know who we are talking about)
I have known the people concerned for over 25 years, and have always found them all to be friendly and helpful, and always willing to give help and advice. I have bought many parts from them, received much advice (At no cost), and had a number of my  Flavias repaired there, some for minor jobs, and some for more extensive work.

Yes of course they may not be the cheapest, but the best never is, so lets give them a break and not disparage people who ultimately love the same cars as us.

We Lancia people are in a minority (See out membership numbers) so I don`t see any point in putting down a company that are solely interested in keeping our chosen type of car on the road.

Sorry for the (Minor) rant.

Bob
Logged
lancialulu
Press Officer
Permanent resident
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3616



« Reply #7 on: 23 June, 2017, 06:45:24 AM »

On another note, I do sense that in some posts here there is a somewhat negative vibe about "The people in Norfolk" (We all know who we are talking about)
I have known the people concerned for over 25 years, and have always found them all to be friendly and helpful, and always willing to give help and advice. I have bought many parts from them, received much advice (At no cost), and had a number of my  Flavias repaired there, some for minor jobs, and some for more extensive work.

Yes of course they may not be the cheapest, but the best never is, so lets give them a break and not disparage people who ultimately love the same cars as us.

We Lancia people are in a minority (See out membership numbers) so I don`t see any point in putting down a company that are solely interested in keeping our chosen type of car on the road.

Well put! I recently phoned Martin at Omicron to ask if they had a rig to test a couple of leaf springs I had. The next day I was there and very helpful they were and not unreasonable with charges etc....
Logged

Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia HFR
1972 1600 HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1978 Transformer HF3000 Strato's replica
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi.e.
chriswgawne
Permanent resident
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 1407



« Reply #8 on: 23 June, 2017, 07:25:35 AM »

Well said Bob,
I don't like seeing suppliers like Omicron being knocked. They stock the parts in the UK and have done for years, offer free advice which is always sound and are often cheaper than the Italians. On several occasions they have sent me parts without payment due to CC expiry and I have never had cause to complain about the quality or fit of any part from them, unlike some of my recent Italian experiences from suppliers who should know better.
Chris
Logged

Chris Gawne
Mobile: 07778 216552
Justin McArdle
Megaposter
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 269


Fulvia Berlina 2C


« Reply #9 on: 23 June, 2017, 03:28:58 PM »

Second that, Bob, Chris and Tim et al
Logged

Lancia 2000 HF Coupe
Fulvia Berlina 2C
fay66
Permanent resident
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 5735



« Reply #10 on: 23 June, 2017, 11:39:31 PM »

Second that, Bob, Chris and Tim et al

Third it?

Brian
8227 Cool
Logged

Own 1966 Fulvia 2C Berlina since 1997, back on road 11-1999.Known as "Fay"
1999 Suzuki Wagon R+ GL, now my daughters
2006 Renault Megane 1 5 Dci Sports Tourer
Dedra Technical Adviser
DavidLaver
Permanent resident
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 3908



« Reply #11 on: 24 June, 2017, 06:37:27 AM »


For me Omicron have the status of "main dealer".   If there is someone else more local or with less overhead you'll use them, but they are there as a backstop for parts, specialist operations, or if you want and can afford their service level.  They are a good choice, but not necessarily the first choice.  "Its always worth asking" in the hope that the job can get done elsewhere for a third of the rate.

My own experience is now a long time ago, but the advice and assistance and parts stock and prices and service was first rate.  I was also surprised that the hourly rate was NOT main dealer and they had a range of people on a range of rates to match to the job in hand.  My conclusion as to why the bill climbed so fast is that they actually charged for the time things took, where a sole trader is more inclined to price a job or be embarrassed to admit just how long it took to - say - shift a hinge pin.  I've known friends at places where they have to find "somewhere" to charge eight hours a day, so if they are under par or get distracted by a lot of "have you got a minute" its gets tense as to who is getting charged.  There may be elements of that.  There is also a management and marketing overhead others don't have, but then the others are harder to find and less well organised...

David
Logged

David Laver, Lewisham.
stanley sweet
Permanent resident
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 1149



WWW
« Reply #12 on: 25 June, 2017, 04:23:00 PM »

I've always had a good and friendly service during phone calls. The only thing I wish they had was a good modern website with photos, descriptions, prices etc like certain Italian suppliers. Sometimes I think they keep the basic website so that you have to talk to them and that way they make sure they know what the problem is and why you're needing the part, thus saving on returns etc.
Logged

1971 Fulvia 1.3S 'Leggera'  1999 Lancia Lybra 1.9JTD LX SW
colinw
Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 63


« Reply #13 on: 18 July, 2017, 01:39:16 PM »

Thank you all for the many positive and useful tips. Feel happier now I have your opinions.
Apologies for not acknowledging earlier.
Logged
Parisien
Administrator
Permanent resident
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3839



« Reply #14 on: 18 July, 2017, 04:42:55 PM »

Thats what the forum is for Colin, guiding and informing the less able and indeed less knowledgable club member, hope it all works out.


P
Logged

Frank Gallagher
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Contact the Forum Administrator

LMC Forum copyright © 2007 - 2018 Lancia Motor Club Ltd

Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2006-2011, Simple Machines