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Author Topic: Am considering a wooden engine for my Lancia.  (Read 5182 times)
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nthomas1
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« on: 22 May, 2016, 05:43:14 PM »

I'm in the middle of rebuilding my Fulvia but don't have very much mechanical expertise.  However, I am reasonably good at woodwork so was pleased to see in the following link that somebody has built an engine out of wood - and it's a 9 cylinder radial to boot.

https://www.aopa.org/News-and-Media/All-News/2016/May/03/Wooden-radial-engine-inspires-online-viewers?utm_source=ePilot&utm_medium=Content&utm_content=tts&utm_campaign=160513eftrng

I thought you fellow Lancisti would appreciate the effort and ingenuity that has gone into this.

So, suitably inspired, I can now get started on a wooden narrow angle V4.  I'll need to keep a fire extinguisher handy as I'm not sure how well it will handle internal combustion!

   
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Norm Thomas
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« Reply #1 on: 22 May, 2016, 07:49:19 PM »

Here's something to put your wooden engine in. Yes, it's a real supercar.


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« Reply #2 on: 22 May, 2016, 08:29:54 PM »

That's amazing craftsmanship.  Unbelievable what some craftsmen can do with wood.  I remember pictures of a 1924 Hispano-Suiza that had its body finished in strips of tulipwood - each held in place with (I think) copper rivets smoothed down level with the surface. 
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Norm Thomas
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« Reply #3 on: 22 May, 2016, 09:37:04 PM »

The incomparable Gerald Wingrove did a run of 1/8th scale models of the Tulipwood Hispano each with 13,000 brass pins to replicate the rivets on the original. He is my all time hero in the car modelling world.


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« Reply #4 on: 23 May, 2016, 12:44:10 AM »

Do you happen to have a higher res picture of the model you could post? It looks really interesting!
thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: 23 May, 2016, 07:12:37 AM »

  I'll need to keep a fire extinguisher handy as I'm not sure how well it will handle internal combustion!

   
I think it would rapidly become external combustion as well!
Regards, John
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« Reply #6 on: 23 May, 2016, 10:23:38 AM »

Not quite the same but this one is used and is a one off by the owner.

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« Reply #7 on: 23 May, 2016, 03:50:55 PM »

You could break away from the LMC and form a splinter group.
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« Reply #8 on: 23 May, 2016, 04:18:20 PM »

And a Citroen Cloverleaf. Tempted to build this on my chassis Grin

Robin


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« Reply #9 on: 23 May, 2016, 04:33:41 PM »

You could break away from the LMC and form a splinter group.

Well Mike, I did consider a splinter group.   I could bough out of the LMC and branch out on my own but it would leave me out on a limb and sap my energy.  I'd be lumbered with all the administration.  It wooden be a good idea really, but thanks for suggesting it.
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Norm Thomas
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« Reply #10 on: 23 May, 2016, 05:55:07 PM »

nthomes1, I think you really have to leave after that little lot.
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« Reply #11 on: 23 May, 2016, 06:04:56 PM »

GG re: Gerald Wingrove tulipwood Hispano, I'm afraid that is the best resolution picture I could find online and I can't put my hand on my copy of "The Complete Car Modeller" at the moment to try scanning anything better.
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« Reply #12 on: 24 May, 2016, 11:22:11 AM »

What I don't understand is how Gerald Wingrove not only built one in the span of a normal lifetime, but a series. Plus all the other models he made too. I'd still be trying to lace the first wheel when I keeled over.
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« Reply #13 on: 24 May, 2016, 12:09:20 PM »

I thought maybe Wingrove worked in the manner of some of the great Renaissance painters, sketching outlines and having a team of talented assistants filling in the colour. That seems not to have been the case and the only help he had was from his wife Phyllis. She's an unsung hero in the Wingrove story. With no previous experience before marrying Gerald she mastered technical drawing, soft soldering, silver soldering, lathe operation and milling, and then she began building chassis and engines.  They worked side by side in the workshop.  Now if I could just get my wife to learn these skills I might just finish my Fulvia  rebuild in half the projected time!
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Norm Thomas
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« Reply #14 on: 24 May, 2016, 09:22:37 PM »

Gerald Wingrove did have a bit of a head start by being a highly skilled toolmaker before embarking on his model making career. His book "The Complete Car Modeller" is a revelation. He breaks things down in such a logical way you think "I could do that".
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