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Author Topic: Fulvia 1.3HF anyone know it's history?  (Read 7687 times)
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« Reply #15 on: 23 November, 2015, 12:36:48 AM »

Hi Brian
The forum allows the extension jpg - so if it's jpeg then this would get blocked. Can you try a renamed file using jpg?
Otherwise I can't think of a reason ...
Thanks Steve,
Looks like that could be the problem, I'll give it a try.

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« Reply #16 on: 23 November, 2015, 10:49:31 PM »

Here are photos relevant to the Australian HF from younger days when it was in the Uk.
The 1974 advert with reference to Pat Moss and it being a Jolly Club car, enough to make you weep when you see what they were asking for it : Cry
The Berlina is Garry setting off for Castelmaine, and a letter he's put out to the other Australian Berlina owners regarding setting up a Register, as there's quite few out there.

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« Reply #17 on: 24 November, 2015, 09:30:41 AM »

Having started off the idea that P Moss might have been Pat Moss, I think this is increasingly unlikely to be the case. Partly because, the log book address in County Down, Northern Ireland doesn’t seem to fit with Pat Moss. Also, I have recalled the name of the owner of the ex-Pat Moss, ex- Jolly Club car that often was at Roger Perry’s workshop – he was a baker from Clacton who had a collection of about five Fulvias in the early 1990s. The ex-Pat Moss car, complete with Halda instruments and full rally trim was CJW 746H. I am sure that car is still in existence somewhere, but I think unlikely to be the one we are now trying to identify.

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« Reply #18 on: 24 November, 2015, 09:52:52 AM »

And would a Jolly Club car be RHD?? Just curious...
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« Reply #19 on: 24 November, 2015, 10:03:33 AM »

In the same adverts an ex-works Alpine Renault 110 was already £2250. Big difference. It does make you weep until I think that I was a student surviving OK with a grant of £140 a year (I was also given 5p a day sustenance). To paraphrase Groucho Marx, 'You can live like a king on 5p a day. You can't eat, but you can live like a king'.
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« Reply #20 on: 24 November, 2015, 11:06:03 AM »

Having started off the idea that P Moss might have been Pat Moss, I think this is increasingly unlikely to be the case. Partly because, the log book address in County Down, Northern Ireland doesn’t seem to fit with Pat Moss. Also, I have recalled the name of the owner of the ex-Pat Moss, ex- Jolly Club car that often was at Roger Perry’s workshop – he was a baker from Clacton who had a collection of about five Fulvias in the early 1990s. The ex-Pat Moss car, complete with Halda instruments and full rally trim was CJW 746H. I am sure that car is still in existence somewhere, but I think unlikely to be the one we are now trying to identify.

Colin
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If that's the case I wonder how Brian Eldridge got away with advertising it as such?
At the time she was Mrs Moss/ Carlsson so I wonder if that has any bearing.
I've just been checking in Lancia Fulvia HF by Enzio Altorio and chassis number 1236 wasn't an an official car that took part in the various Rallyes, so I may have been a Jolly Club car as advertised, but how do we prove it one way or the other that it's ex Pat Moss, or not as the case maybe?
The Chassis Number Range for the 818.340/1 was from 1100-1295 & from 1404-2089, that being the case I'm not quite sure how they get to the total of 882 Built. Huh?
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« Reply #21 on: 24 November, 2015, 11:11:33 AM »

I've just removed the log book as I hadn't realised it wasn't for general use, however here is the message that went with it.
The Images besides the log book referred to were the ones I posted yesterday.
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Further information from Australia.
Does it ring any bells? as I'd like to help if I can.

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"I received these images from the young man with the HF project.
Quite impressive. See Attached.

I got in touch with a guy in nsw in the club who had record of graham towers owning the car in 1983. So it has been here at least since then.
I bought a book which has results of the Motoring News Rally championship. It mentions Robin Pettigrew in the results. So i have accounted for three of the owners, Reggie Mcspadden, Brian Eldridge and Robin Pettigrew.
I just put a post on a historic rally page, so we will see what happens.”

I suggested he contact Graham Towers, Grahame Ward and Jeremy Browne."
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« Reply #22 on: 24 November, 2015, 11:19:40 AM »

And would a Jolly Club car be RHD?? Just curious...
Tim,
The official cars would seem to have all been LHD, but it also looks like RHD was available as  as 818.341 is shown in 'La Lancia' but no split of RHD & LHD. and the information repeated in another reference source.

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« Reply #23 on: 24 November, 2015, 11:22:04 AM »

Having started off the idea that P Moss might have been Pat Moss, I think this is increasingly unlikely to be the case. Partly because, the log book address in County Down, Northern Ireland doesn’t seem to fit with Pat Moss. Also, I have recalled the name of the owner of the ex-Pat Moss, ex- Jolly Club car that often was at Roger Perry’s workshop – he was a baker from Clacton who had a collection of about five Fulvias in the early 1990s. The ex-Pat Moss car, complete with Halda instruments and full rally trim was CJW 746H. I am sure that car is still in existence somewhere, but I think unlikely to be the one we are now trying to identify.

Colin
Colin,
If that's the case I wonder how Brian Eldridge got away with advertising it as such?
At the time she was Mrs Moss/ Carlsson so I wonder if that has any bearing.
I've just been checking in Lancia Fulvia HF by Enzio Altorio and chassis number 1236 wasn't an an official car that took part in the various Rallyes, so I may have been a Jolly Club car as advertised, but how do we prove it one way or the other that it's ex Pat Moss, or not as the case maybe?
The Chassis Number Range for the 818.340/1 was from 1100-1295 & from 1404-2089, that being the case I'm not quite sure how they get to the total of 882 Built. Huh?
Brian
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1236 was rhd just before a run of lhd works cars....
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