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Roland
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« on: 30 June, 2014, 12:33:41 PM »

Has anyone tried modifying the standard camshaft driven type by using one of the electric motors from an after market electric steering system ?  If so, what were the results?
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« Reply #1 on: 30 June, 2014, 12:41:43 PM »

I know this has been discussed within Gamma circles but have not heard if anyone has tried to direct couple the steering shaft - unless you are talking about replacing the pump with an electric pump???

Personally I just keep the belts slack....
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« Reply #2 on: 15 July, 2014, 03:59:11 PM »

Yes, just replacing the steering pump with an aftermarket electric one.
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« Reply #3 on: 15 July, 2014, 06:48:55 PM »


Learn something new...

http://driveev.com/jeepev/convpgs/psteer.php


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/toyota-mr2-power-steering-Pump-/111393891983?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19ef97e68f

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-MR2-power-steering-pump-sW22-137300-9005-80960-17010-build-199/111359176160?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24133%26meid%3D8337741088385456753%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10245%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111393891983&rt=nc

http://www.thetvrshop.com/TVR/Parts_details/TVR%20H0758%20R/a%7C/T350.htm

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« Reply #4 on: 15 July, 2014, 06:55:43 PM »


So its a really common thing!!! 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.Xelectric+power+steering+pump&_nkw=electric+power+steering+pump&_sacat=0&_from=R40

I thought there was the hydraulic sort driven off the engine or an electric motor attached to the steering column.  I'm am so out of touch with how cars are screwed together these days.  Next you'll be telling me they have a robot shouting navigation instructions at you as it reads an out of date map from a digital versatile disk.

David
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« Reply #5 on: 15 July, 2014, 10:01:47 PM »


So its a really common thing!!! 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.Xelectric+power+steering+pump&_nkw=electric+power+steering+pump&_sacat=0&_from=R40

I thought there was the hydraulic sort driven off the engine or an electric motor attached to the steering column.  I'm am so out of touch with how cars are screwed together these days.  Next you'll be telling me they have a robot shouting navigation instructions at you as it reads an out of date map from a digital versatile disk.

David
My Grande Punto, Citroen C3 Picasso and my current Suzuki Wagon R+ all had/have electric power steering wiith no fluid involvement at all, in one of the current car magazines Practical Mechanics? there's an article on replacing faulty electric power steering, the Fiat set up shown is all based around the steering column, and looks a right pig to work on with servos and sensor, whereas the VW set up appears to be all incorporated with the steering rack, and a much easier proposition for anyone attempting to fit electric power steering to something else, whether or not you could get the rack to fit to a Gamma is another matter.

Brian
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« Reply #6 on: 15 July, 2014, 10:10:31 PM »

I wouldn't recommend fitting a rack from another car to anything else, there's too much to go wrong! The input shaft has to be in the right place so that the body of the rack is centred in the car, if it's not you'll have a bigger turning circle one way than the other! The length of the rack between knuckles has to be the same as does the steering arm otherwise you'll end up with some really unwanted wheel deflections as the suspension rises and falls, mounting it in any other position than original will also induce bump steer.

If you really need to change the power steering set up the electric pump has to be the most flexible option? An electric column would be the second choice but is going to be a lot more complex and you'll probably end up with a girly button on the dash too....

Please also consider telling your insurance company about any modification to the steering! If you don't any subsequent claims could be voided.

Guy

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« Reply #7 on: 15 July, 2014, 10:28:19 PM »


I've had a message from Geoff Holmes advising contact with the Gamma Consortium.  I wasn't sure if it was with encouragement or discouragement but to me it would be an essential first step with these sorts of ideas.  There's a lot to get wrong.

David
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