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Author Topic: 1965 Flavia Zagato colour challange  (Read 6657 times)
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« Reply #15 on: 24 May, 2014, 06:54:13 PM »

This is Jamaica Blue on a Fulvia (Sorry for the quality of the photo).
I can remember seeing quite a few Fulvia Sports (only the 1600) with the fur interior, it was only used for the seat facing, I always refered to it as 'dead rat' because it didn't wear well!


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« Reply #16 on: 24 May, 2014, 07:22:05 PM »


I think I'd have walked past thinking "a variation on Lancia Blue"

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« Reply #17 on: 25 May, 2014, 01:40:21 AM »

Speaking of Lancia blu, there are (in Glasurit land) two of them:

LAN 174 from 1966
LAN 438 from 1978

In addition, Glasurit also list  LAN 216, a very dark bleu dunkelblau from 1971.

In 1991, Lechler listed 1179 for Blu scuro used on s.1/2 B20s, then it was called simply Blu for s.3/4/5 (with Blu Scuro listed as 8015). Then for Flaminias, they listed 1332 as Blu Lancia.

Max Meyer numbers are even more confusing,in part due to changes in paint systems in the 1960s-70s.

In addition to incomplete, inconsistent, and changing information, to date we have been unable to find a cross-index between these three manufacturers, Max Meyer, Glasurit and Lechler.

Clear as mud? 

One solution is to use the Glasurit numbers with some care ….  Another way is to find an original sample from a Lancia you believe to be correct and unfaded and get it matched.
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« Reply #18 on: 15 January, 2020, 03:44:38 PM »

Colin spotted this car for sale in Germany, and posted the colour swatch.



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« Reply #19 on: 15 January, 2020, 03:48:25 PM »

Google found this on our forum - footer says "Paul Mayo 2015" - but have (so far) been unable to locate the original forum thread its from.  The image looks close, and the information is:

"Colour Name & Effect"       
AZZURRO SAN SIRO MET

"Year Range"                     
1960

"LechlerColour Code"
NF 6580
(PININFARINA)
         
"Max Meyer Colour & code"
1.234.7430 Lunalcrom
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« Reply #20 on: 15 January, 2020, 04:00:45 PM »

Two pictures of the same car from page one of this thread, a reminder of how much difference light/camera/etc make to what "a colour" looks like.  The German car, in the day light but what looks like quite a grey day, is somewhere between these two.

Being so used to "same colour looks quite different" it took me an embarrassingly long time to work out the colour swatch pictures are the "paint sample" and "information on the reverse" not a pair of colour samples.


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« Reply #21 on: 15 January, 2020, 04:08:45 PM »


Having looked at the table, anyone got pictures of cars in AZZURRO LA PLATA and OTTANIO ARCADIA?

The first is quite cheerful, the second has the green tinge which I now think was oxidisation and slime "as found" rather than how anyone ever wanted it to look.
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« Reply #22 on: 15 January, 2020, 10:35:23 PM »

Again to get the relevant photos on the same page, some as found photos, and what a clean and cut did to it.

2013...and it was 2017 since I even touched the forum thread...


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« Reply #23 on: 15 January, 2020, 10:39:08 PM »

Looks really green in this one.  Very similar to the second photo of EYY 730B

This is more a thread about not trusting photos than anything else.


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« Reply #24 on: 16 January, 2020, 06:53:15 AM »

And then add your monitor to the equasion.....
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« Reply #25 on: 16 January, 2020, 02:59:37 PM »

Mostly my "screen time" is on a small chromebook at a "standing desk" (on top of a cupboard) downstairs.  Its now a real treat to sit at the desk upstairs and look back at some of the photos on the forum on a proper big screen.  Quite a different experience.

I've only just replaced the pair of screens upstairs.  They were old CRTs (one gave up, sold the other very well on ebay, a nice suprise after 20 years with me and maybe 30 years old) and colour from one screen to another was quite different.  At least now got a pair upstairs.

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« Reply #26 on: 18 January, 2020, 09:18:23 AM »

Are CRT monitors "retro" collectables now?
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« Reply #27 on: 18 January, 2020, 12:36:48 PM »

My CRT went to a gamer in his 20s to play "really old stuff" from 2010.  Its what he grew up with.
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« Reply #28 on: 18 January, 2020, 03:51:18 PM »

Signori,
'Arcoveggio' is the name of a horse racing track in Bologna. If it is attached to a Lancia colour it is perhaps for fanciful reasons, by analogy with Grigio Newmarket, for example.
'Blu Jamaica' is I believe a late series 1 Fulvia colour, used on the GTE and the Coupé Rally 1.3S. It is a deep metallic blue, but lighter than a navy blue. There is a very smart Coupé 1.3S painted in it in the Club, but I don't know whose it is.
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