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« Reply #45 on: 30 March, 2014, 06:56:23 PM »

I have posted an ad on the "spares wanted" but does anyone have / know where to get the following rubbers for the berlina: central door rubbers, boor rubber, door handle rubbers

I would be happy with good secondhand ......

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« Reply #46 on: 30 March, 2014, 06:57:34 PM »

http://www.cicognaniguarnizioni.it/en/lancia
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« Reply #47 on: 30 March, 2014, 07:04:33 PM »

Thanks Ade, it even has prices ......
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« Reply #48 on: 31 March, 2014, 04:38:45 PM »

Block paint arrived this morning, so I've gone green - not for the purists, but I did warn you !

I cleaned and re-glued the trim on the seat frame and did a bit more on the interior. I received an order of carpet/felt/vinyl etc from Woolies so I have underfelted the passenger side. I also bought some simple black stretchy lightweight carpet which I have glued onto the sills and then a heavier weight carpet for the lift out carpets. All undo-able if one day I feel rich enough to redo all the carpets in wool. I have kept all the old rotten bits

Feeling a bit light-headed from the contact adhesive ......

The rear wheel arches were missing the vinyl trim so I have glued some tan (looks better in the flesh than under camera flash) vinyl over the underfelt, refitted the side panel and back seat - getting quite comfortable


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« Reply #49 on: 01 April, 2014, 12:41:20 AM »

Trust someone to put their big feet all over your nice new carpet Grin

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« Reply #50 on: 02 April, 2014, 08:30:02 PM »

It's funny but you only see the size 10&1/2's on photos, not under normal light ! Now the carpets are finished , I must hoover it all properly

Yes , the carpets, seats and trims are done, not perfect but useable for the first time in years. There are seams that need to be resewn, the colours are mismatched and the doors still need to be done ........

The lightweight carpet I bought is ideal for the sills and tunnels, it is slightly flexible. I found that if I cut the piece to roughly the the right size and shape, spray-glued both surfaces, then you can fit it, pull it into shape and then tidy it up with a sharp Stanley knife - not for the purists !

The front seat is adjustable without the help of the passenger, the long springs (seen in the second photo) help . I had to alter one of the seat mountings because I think the passenger side has had a bump at some time and the floor/sill was distorted (doors also changed this side)

The original front rubber mats are remarkably good, needing a good clean with degreaser and once finally fitted, a coat of rubber care. I still have the aftermarket mats which did a good job of protecting the originals

Once the interior was done, I moved onto the brakes, the master cylindre and pedal assembly have been removed and an initial clean done, the m/cyl itself is not scored, so hopefully a deglaze and new seals will be enough

Good to see another "everyday Appia" making its way back onto the road - well done J !


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« Reply #51 on: 03 April, 2014, 07:20:38 AM »


I don't think you need to be too worried about carpet that is then covered by original mats...

Cracking on eh!!

Want to come and stay here for a couple of weeks Wink

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« Reply #52 on: 03 April, 2014, 07:54:36 PM »

David, I've got a couple of jobs lined up for you ......

Still raining here ( we need it so not complaining) so between other jobs I finished the prep and painted the pedal assembly. Some small differences with the furgoncino, but very similar. Castings the same but different casting numbers. Biggest difference is that the van has a rod linkage for the carb, the S3 has a cable system. The bowden cable is not a standard type wire, it has a wound brass sheath to make it stiffer !

The master cyl has cleaned up well, the hone did a good job. All ready for new rubbers. My brake fluid reservoir is stuck solid and I cannot undo the retaining ring, but fortunately I had a spare which has come undone relatively easily. This now awaits new rubbers as well - the list sent to Don was very long .....

Typical Lancia details, the reservoir piston rod has a hole drilled through it so you can insert a pin to block it and then undo the plunger button. The master cyl has a daft number of springs .....

Lastly, bounced the valves out of the head and gave it an initial clean ready for more intensive therapy over the weekend



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« Reply #53 on: 03 April, 2014, 10:32:10 PM »

David, I've got a couple of jobs lined up for you ......

Still raining here ( we need it so not complaining) so between other jobs I finished the prep and painted the pedal assembly. Some small differences with the furgoncino, but very similar. Castings the same but different casting numbers. Biggest difference is that the van has a rod linkage for the carb, the S3 has a cable system. The bowden cable is not a standard type wire, it has a wound brass sheath to make it stiffer !

The master cyl has cleaned up well, the hone did a good job. All ready for new rubbers. My brake fluid reservoir is stuck solid and I cannot undo the retaining ring, but fortunately I had a spare which has come undone relatively easily. This now awaits new rubbers as well - the list sent to Don was very long .....

Typical Lancia details, the reservoir piston rod has a hole drilled through it so you can insert a pin to block it and then undo the plunger button. The master cyl has a daft number of springs .....

Lastly, bounced the valves out of the head and gave it an initial clean ready for more intensive therapy over the weekend


Simon,
I can see the rubber hammer and the piece of wood that I assume was used to "Bounce the Valves out of the head", never having come across this method before, how does it work please?

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« Reply #54 on: 04 April, 2014, 06:21:06 AM »

Hi, the "piece of wood" is actually a tube with access holes and a rounded top. This sits on the top of the valve and then you smartly tap the tube " or 4 times. The collets then just pop out. If you are too vicious the collets do fly out ! An old Harry/Bish trick ......
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« Reply #55 on: 04 April, 2014, 08:39:31 AM »


Do you hit the valve or the spring retainer?

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« Reply #56 on: 04 April, 2014, 10:41:20 AM »

Hi, the "piece of wood" is actually a tube with access holes and a rounded top. This sits on the top of the valve and then you smartly tap the tube " or 4 times. The collets then just pop out. If you are too vicious the collets do fly out ! An old Harry/Bish trick ......

Thanks Simon,
looking closer I can now see it isn't wood Roll Eyes seems like a good way to go for ease.
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« Reply #57 on: 04 April, 2014, 10:50:28 AM »

That is such a cunning and simple tool. However, being a coward and having lost bits, sometimes permanently, I would want to place a tube around the valve spring, extending say 75 mm above the top of the valve, to contain the collets when they 'popped out.  It is either that or chicken out totally and use a conventional valve spring compressor. I have only ever done this on a Gussie engine, will a conventional tool fit on the other narrow V engines?

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« Reply #58 on: 04 April, 2014, 11:39:12 AM »


A conventional compressor works on an Aprilia.

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« Reply #59 on: 04 April, 2014, 02:28:52 PM »

Does anyone else think that where Simon lives there must be a time bubble where there are 48 hours per day, I have no idea how he gets so much done in such a short amount of time AND carries on a business/has a life etc.......

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