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Author Topic: Appia furgoncino - A fettler's voyage  (Read 133972 times)
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« Reply #225 on: 04 July, 2015, 08:22:59 AM »

interestingly the 2 sides are quite different - the joys of handbuilt cars !

Well, that might be... ahem... my fault. Both those rear wings were rebuilt, and by two different people (one extremely competent and one perhaps a bit less so). The van needed hardly any metalwork, but most of what it needed was there.

So it's perhaps not fair to blame the artesans of Bolzano for any differences between the two sides...
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« Reply #226 on: 13 July, 2015, 06:08:08 PM »

Thanks Alan,

Both have been done nicely, we removed all the filler and put the thinnest skim back, so maybe it was neither Bolzano nor Exeter, but Mailhac !

Back to Mailhac, full steam ahead on the body and front axle. Dog is flatting and prepping the panels and body prior to a second 2K undercoat. Still hoping to start topcoat by the end of the month

I've finished the front axle and hubs ; cleaned, degreased and re-painted.

I'm sure that everyone is aware of this, but there are threaded holes (M8 standard pitch) to help remove the drum once the 4 slotted retaining screws have been removed.

I didn't remove the axle to clean it because I have heard that it can be a real pain to refit the bolts because they move out of alignment by the tiniest of fractions and can be virtually impossible to refit without rams and/or clamps. Best left alone !

Couple of interesting points (for the anoraks amongst us), the axle plate is off-centre by a long way, did they skew them to the driver's side on purpose ?? The plate shows "C80S" - ie LHD furgoncino - and then axle number

The cut out for the steering box is very crude. You can imagine a big, hairy Italian with an angle-grinder cutting out the square of metal for his mate to weld in the box - "Luigi, don't forget it's a "sinestra""

Finally, you can see very clearly the body spacers which give the extra ride-height.






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« Reply #227 on: 14 July, 2015, 04:44:45 PM »

More today ..... Dog has finished flatting all the removable panels ready for a second primer tomorrow. Then we can do the body itself. For that I need to have finished the front axle/steering, so that was my job today

The Appia/Aurelia steering joints are beautiful, loads of machined parts, spring-loaded ball joints and castle-ated nuts. Hugely expensive !

Most of the parts have been stamped with a dot, someone once told me that this was a proof of testing along with the yellow paint marks. I will show a picture of the marks if anyone is interested

Should all be back together tomorrow - off to see the fireworks now - Bastille Day !


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« Reply #228 on: 14 July, 2015, 07:01:21 PM »

Where are the fireworks?
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« Reply #229 on: 14 July, 2015, 07:15:09 PM »

The Appia/Aurelia steering joints are beautiful, loads of machined parts, spring-loaded ball joints and castle-ated nuts. Hugely expensive !


That takes me back a month or two!!!!  You are right Simon, the ball joints are a work of art!!! I felt it necessary to lap them in, just to bring them back to their former silky smoothness!!!

It is great to see you forging on ..... I am still in a somewhat stagnant situation at the moment with the Appia, but the Gussie is romping on!!!!

Keep going and please keep posting, if only to get me back into finding that b***** knock in my Appia!!

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« Reply #230 on: 14 July, 2015, 08:10:53 PM »

Where are the fireworks?

.......across La Manche.......... Cheesy

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« Reply #231 on: 14 July, 2015, 08:49:26 PM »

The white panels look like an airfix kit - I hope you know how lucky you are to have the space to spread them like that...

Lovely photos of the joints.
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« Reply #232 on: 15 July, 2015, 05:17:38 PM »

Thanks for your comments, fireworks were excellent as was dinner beforehand ("En Face" centre of Narbonne)

I have done a bit of a garage swap with a neighbour, I am sorting out the final bits on the Citroen HY van chez moi, and Dog is prepping and priming in the neighbour's garage.

Fair swap !

Looking forward to updates, Andy (or should I say "Forum Award-winning Andy" - congrats !)

Just to finish off, steering re-assembled, wheels on and the pushed round to said neighbour's garage. I have all the newly re-primed panels back here ready to be 1200 wet-flatted. Hopefully she can go away to be painted next week ......

Steering box will have to come off again to fit the brake pipes, hence no stops and the presence of a 13 mm bolt instead of the correct 14mm pinned bolt. The rest is torqued-up and greased.


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« Reply #233 on: 27 July, 2015, 06:10:19 PM »

Everything has been re-primed, guide-coated, flatted, wet flatted with 400 then 800 and any final tiny imperfections stoppered. We brought the shell back from the neighbour's, using the Rodeo to stop it rolling down the drive ......

Wings and doors fitted ready to go to the paint shop tomorrow.

The van is 2-tone, so we have to fit the panels to get the line between the 2 colours lined up along the doors and body.

Big day tomorrow !


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« Reply #234 on: 27 July, 2015, 06:27:44 PM »

Looking good Simon!
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« Reply #235 on: 28 July, 2015, 11:39:31 AM »

The excitement builds.............
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« Reply #236 on: 28 July, 2015, 04:18:37 PM »

Off she went today - but not without fuss !

The "Boys in Blue" set up a controle in the centre of the village (we are 400 souls) and stopped everyone and checked all their papers .......

I was in a Polish lorry, UK driving license in France with an Italian car on the back ......

A German neighbour had his Honda Monkey Bike confiscated because he had no helmet and no reg plates !  So much for tranquility in "La France Profonde"



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« Reply #237 on: 28 July, 2015, 06:43:35 PM »

Mon Dieu! Just like I picked up a 90eu fine for passing through on Orange in neighboring LC. Feels like Bedfordshire!!! (No offence Brian).
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« Reply #238 on: 29 July, 2015, 11:43:48 AM »

Month ago picked up 90 euros and 1 point for doing 56km/h in a 50 zone. In fact I was still slowing into the town and remember making the little face smile on the sign. They knock off 10% for speedo error so all that for travelling at 0.4K/h over the limit!
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« Reply #239 on: 02 August, 2015, 07:54:13 AM »

I am not necessarily going to rewire the furgoncino, however I am practicing on a HY Citroen Van that probably has the same level of complexity

Using Andy's "on board" approach and time, it is quite straight forward. I have screwed every terminal onto the board and am replacing one wire at a time.

The only down side is that the original loom is lost because I am cutting the old wires out. Less chance of making an error ??


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