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« Reply #45 on: 29 March, 2013, 09:25:29 AM »

I haven't been on the forum lately but as possibly the only correspondent with a Flaminia Berlina sitting on my drive I would like to put in my two penny worth.

Buy the best you can afford has to be the way to go. I don't think even Lancia made a profit out of them when they were new. Costs of any work will never be reflected in the value of the finished article. However I wouldnt be too worried. They are built like tanks! And as far as I can see that includes the pannel work under the surface. Lots of flat panels with right angle joins.

I don't think anyone has answereed on side repeaters and headlights. The headlights are standard round ones so perfectly straight forward to swap in right hand drive units. The side repeaters on the rear pillars were only on the earliest versions (drum braked versions?). Later cars have an enamelled Lancia badge instead which is ever so pretty.

With the brakes, those early Dunlop brakes were common to Jaguars so no problem with parts I shouldn't think. The servo is an issue though. Omicron have a rig for restoring them , at a price. However I have heard of people substituting a different servo, which, if you argue safety over originality, can be justified.

Finally, don't be boring and buy a pininfarina coupe! Make a grand gesture and get yourself a Berlina. They are magnificent! I would go for something that is in good enough running order to drive straight away and with decent original paint. Justs do it.Prices are rising!
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« Reply #46 on: 29 March, 2013, 11:39:56 AM »

Hi Frank, do you still have pics of your Berlina to post? In the meantime here is a photo of an enamelled  badge as mentioned, plus a spare Coupe pic


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« Reply #47 on: 29 March, 2013, 02:17:00 PM »

Jusr noticed that there are 3 Flaminia Berlinas for sale on subito.it , all of which look to be in very good condition and all of which are in N Italy (Piazzola sul Brenta, Mantova and Turin). The Torinese car in particular looks superb in the photos and it has only v recently been put on subito.
 Can I resist the temptation to at least go and look at one of them, 'just out of interest Jacky'?
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« Reply #48 on: 29 March, 2013, 02:25:54 PM »

Chris, take one for the team, you know you want to!

Serious if you have the time and inclination it would be great to hear a first hand, seasoned eye type report on the Berlina, or indeed any other Lancias you see for sale in the homeland!


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« Reply #49 on: 29 March, 2013, 02:46:06 PM »

The first Lancia I ever bought  was a very rusty, very wonderful Berlina, an early one with the rear wipers (in/out), drum brakes, a sumptuous worn leather interior, and about 17 shades of primer grey covering a whole bunch of rust. It had solid floorboards, tho, and was a great driver. It ran like a tank, except around 32, when it snowed, and the distributor just wouldn't spark. So you had to wait until it either got colder or warmer before moving on.

In the mid-1970s, having  paid Walt Spak about $350 for it, it was sold to Bill Knauz (a local car dealer ) for $600, he sold it to Carter Hendricks in St. Louis for $1200, who then sold it to  Japan for $2400. All of us sat down one night for dinner and shared our stories of the car and how to double your money with Lancias.

Bill Knauz lent me a truck and trailer to go on a 24 hour drive to see a couple of B24 convertibles in a Kansas field, with high hopes, but with weeds growing out of the cylinder bores, we took a pass. Groggy from the non-stop return drive, I drove the Berlina through the ravines north of Chicago, our only local twisties, and promptly spun the car a mere 180. A fun memory to be sure!

Great cars, like the inside of a Swiss bank vault. Absolutely the definition of build quality.
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« Reply #50 on: 29 March, 2013, 02:48:39 PM »

Jusr noticed that there are 3 Flaminia Berlinas for sale on subito.it , all of which look to be in very good condition and all of which are in N Italy (Piazzola sul Brenta, Mantova and Turin). The Torinese car in particular looks superb in the photos and it has only v recently been put on subito.
 Can I resist the temptation to at least go and look at one of them, 'just out of interest Jacky'?
Think the car in Turin is a 2.8 which makes it pretty rare and it looks like it's got the twin front seats option and an air conditioning unit  http://www.subito.it/auto/lancia-flaminia-2-8-limousine-torino-61717685.htm?
There's also a 5000 euro restoration project on there now http://www.subito.it/auto/lancia-flaminia-berlina-chieti-43131379.htm
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« Reply #51 on: 29 March, 2013, 04:09:50 PM »

Didnt mention the restoration project @ 5,000 because it dates back to February and so may well be sold. Also to restore a Flaminia is a big job and the others I mentioned look much much better bets to me IMHO>
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« Reply #52 on: 29 March, 2013, 04:37:14 PM »

Didnt mention the restoration project @ 5,000 because it dates back to February and so may well be sold. Also to restore a Flaminia is a big job and the others I mentioned look much much better bets to me IMHO>
I just mentioned purely as it's a fair amount cheaper than the other restoration projects I've come across. I'm really not brave or patient enough to tackle a full blown restoration (unless I come across an original UK car that needs saving) but there are definitely a few nice ones out there in Holland and Italy to see. I'll start in Holland after Easter and see how it goes.
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« Reply #53 on: 31 March, 2013, 03:39:43 PM »

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C332299

One owner only...sat for 30 years....seems a tad expensive


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« Reply #54 on: 01 April, 2013, 10:03:43 AM »

A nice looking car here


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« Reply #55 on: 01 April, 2013, 02:54:59 PM »

A nice looking car here
I wonder how enough air can get past the badges to keep it cool. . . .

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« Reply #56 on: 12 April, 2013, 08:58:16 AM »

Here is one without the badges from classicvirus.com. (Autoscout link not working) http://classicvirus.com/2012/12/10/long-time-stored-1959-lancia-flaminia-berlina-pininfarina/
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« Reply #57 on: 19 April, 2013, 11:50:53 AM »

Another sorry one for sale:

http://www.ebay.it/itm/LANCIA-FLAMINIA-BERLINA-/121097389872?pt=Ricambi_automobili&hash=item1c31f78730&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1353


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« Reply #58 on: 19 April, 2013, 12:35:51 PM »

Don't worry about air getting past the badges, the radiator is set way further back with loads of room for air to get to it.

Richard's latest post looks a good prospect. If you polished it up and recomissioned it you might be almost there with getting it back on the road. If it was in the UK and I had a bit of spare cash I would grab it........but that's what happened last time!

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« Reply #59 on: 25 April, 2013, 06:13:47 PM »

From http://www.barnfinds.com/languishing-lancia-1964-lancia-flaminia/#more-2890 and http://www.barnfinds.com/italian-luxury-1962-lancia-flaminia-berlina/
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