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« Reply #180 on: 01 November, 2012, 02:38:23 PM »

Can you cross reference the Flaminias bearing number with either or/both Fulvia/Flavia?


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« Reply #181 on: 01 November, 2012, 02:42:06 PM »

Diagram. I understand there are no LMC Flaminia tools. Richard

Theres an opportunity Richard!!! Think of the pleasure....of making your own....................but surely someone has done so already?!

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« Reply #182 on: 01 November, 2012, 02:51:24 PM »

Fulvia/Flavia bearings are different I think


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« Reply #183 on: 01 November, 2012, 03:54:06 PM »

Richard
Re the Fulvia and Flavia bearings, having fitted both recently, I am fairly certain that they are the same size, at least in the S2 Fulvia I am restoring and the Flavia Sport.

The oil filter no. for a Fram is CH801PL. If you struggle to find them, I bought a box of them last year and could send one up to you. A spin-off oil filter and conversion plate is available from two suppliers.

Re the rear brakes, the calipers can be removed by working partly through the access hole in the boot and from underneath. I have machined down a 17mm socket on a quarter drive. With this you can get the top bolt out through the boot.

Re the wheel bearing, I obtained a set of tools (home made by an engineer), for doing replacing the bearing. It can be done with the axle on the car. As part of the kit consists of a steel wheel with two pieces of angle iron welded to the rim to act as a foot, the weight of the car can then be placed on this structure, allowing you to undo the locking ring. Unfortunately the person who made the tooling and had experience using it, died a couple of years ago and I have yet to use it myself.
The only new wheel bearings available at present are being manufactured in the USA, and being sold by a person in Holland.....and you are right about the price 500 a pair. I haven't bought any and don't intend to. There has to be another source somewhere. I am actively looking at present and will let you know if I have any success.

Hope this all helps.

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« Reply #184 on: 01 November, 2012, 04:01:52 PM »

David, are the Flaminia and Aurelia bearing designs the same( but not the same bearing indeed)...ie seemingly one off designs not fitted to other cars anywhere? Isn't there an SKF reference/cross referencing of older bearings with newer bearing out there........will post up if I can find


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« Reply #185 on: 01 November, 2012, 04:17:43 PM »

Thanks Dave,yes those bearings pictured fit s1 and s2.I have found an oil filter element at Breens Maidstone for less than a fiver.Still need an air filter though.Thanks for the rear brake info.also your bearing tool kit sounds very useful.richard


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« Reply #186 on: 01 November, 2012, 04:49:34 PM »

I have now found the inspection hatch in the boot floor. Thanks again Dave.


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« Reply #187 on: 01 November, 2012, 05:10:12 PM »

Diagram. Good idea Tim but I understand there are no LMC Flaminia tools . Richard
Richard,
that's correct, I've already had a look through the tools for Andy (The Cern) to see if there was anything like for his Aurelia, unfortunately there wasn't.

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« Reply #188 on: 01 November, 2012, 06:23:01 PM »

I bought a couple of rear wheel bearings from Classic Lancia in Holland. Not cheap,But their stuff is always best quality and cheaper than the only other supplier that I could find (in Italy).  Also, after some investigation it appeared that it might be a cheaper option than having mine rebuilt.  The picture shows one with a Gamma front bearing alongside.  The Gamma uses a pretty large bearing - around about the same size as the Flava etc. - but the Flaminia bearing dwarfs it as you can see. 


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« Reply #189 on: 01 November, 2012, 06:30:59 PM »

I would expect the large rear wheel bearings for Flaminia to be similar if not the same as for Aurelia - they are much bigger than for Flavia or Fulvia. The problem of finding replacements for these was a subject in September, under "A B20 Story", when I made the post below. I am sure there must still be bearing rebuild specialists out there somewhere. Perhaps commercial vehicle parts machinists/ suppliers?

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Just over 20 years ago when I needed such a bearing they were completely unobtainable as new items from all the usual stockists. I was lucky and was able to buy a new/unused RIV one (from Tim Burrett I think). The alternative then was to have an old bearing rebuilt with freshly ground grooves and larger balls. My local bearing supplier (sadly now closed down) could have had this done for about the same price as the unobtainable new one. This might still be an option if you can find a good old fashioned supplier.

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« Reply #190 on: 01 November, 2012, 08:37:57 PM »

As per Richards request.....


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« Reply #191 on: 01 November, 2012, 08:42:27 PM »

Tried to upload SKF bearing list but too big, plus my resizer won't accommodate a PDF file...anyone help?


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« Reply #192 on: 01 November, 2012, 08:47:48 PM »

This is Brian Longs, from Australia, VL Aurelia article...am sure its equally applicable.....with thanks to Brian!


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« Reply #193 on: 01 November, 2012, 10:04:08 PM »

Richard you seem to have hit a nerve there with your bearing challenge! Any mere mortals I spoke to about bearing replacement suggested it was a challenging job. If I were you I would consider perhaps swopping out as much of the suspension and drivetrain as necessary to replace the bearing and hub on the car with those from the spare rear end I gave you - that is why I drove all the way to Scotland for it and then sold it to you with the car. This would seem to be an ideal opportunity to refurb the rear brakes too since you can have the whole spare rig overhauled and ready to go in without having the car hors de combat for weeks (and possibly months if you get into difficulty en route). Having said that, the cause of a "bearing" noise on a '04 Golf I worked on last weekend turned out to be just a stuck rear brake caliper - not locked on but yet not quite fully disengaging the pads from the discs.
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« Reply #194 on: 01 November, 2012, 10:09:05 PM »

Indeed Alan.....a proper diagnosis is required before embarking on un-necessary expenditure.

I had a similar issue, turned out the actual wheel bearing housing/sleeve had failed...still had to replace bearing though as it was integral to the whole hub!


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