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« Reply #150 on: 10 January, 2014, 07:02:22 PM »

looking excellent Andy well done  Smiley
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« Reply #151 on: 10 January, 2014, 08:28:50 PM »

Brian , re the Hammerite, I have often used it in the past and been very satisfied. However, the product I am using now does not seem to be the same beast, it is not as viscous and does not seem to cover as well. I read a comment on another site that stated that the original manufacturer's, Finnegans, formulation was somewhat different to that on offer now. My experience seems to support that!!

Does anyone on the forum wish to  recommend a primer/paint system for use on the the underside of our beloved vehicles. Please note, I am asking for recommendations, not guarantees or a promise of a better result !!! Much to much depends on preparation and application !!!!

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« Reply #152 on: 10 January, 2014, 09:58:05 PM »

Thank the EU for all the changes with paint, its made my life and other painter lives hell!!!! most paint was lead based in the good old days which is now banned  Angry best thing on the market these days is a 3M underseal which stays waxy , I will get the product number and let you know what it is, another very good option believe it or not is Dulux bare metal prima ,undercoat then gloss, this can be brushed or sprayed and is very flexible ,
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #153 on: 11 January, 2014, 09:28:27 AM »

Thanks for that James, I do recall you mentioning Dulux before, maybe for my next project !!!! Is the 3M underseal better than the Schutz and how does it compare in appearance? Would it be ok to use Waxoyl over it?

A couple more axle photos. We are stuck on the rebuild at the moment because the grease cups for the original thrust bearings, of course, do not fit the larger new bearings, another little job for the lathe. Hopefully these will be ready soon and then we can complete the axle rebuild.

Another couple of photographs .... I hope!!

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« Reply #154 on: 11 January, 2014, 10:13:49 AM »

Great progress, please keep the pictures coming - the more detail the better !

My experience with Hammerite has been similar, the new formulation is just not as good. The texture is different and it needs at least 2 coats. I no longer use it at all. I now have to use an oil based anti rust paint that takes at least 24 hrs to dry, I haven't found a quicker drying option yet

Bon courage !
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« Reply #155 on: 11 January, 2014, 12:35:05 PM »

Great progress, please keep the pictures coming - the more detail the better !

My experience with Hammerite has been similar, the new formulation is just not as good. The texture is different and it needs at least 2 coats. I no longer use it at all. I now have to use an oil based anti rust paint that takes at least 24 hrs to dry, I haven't found a quicker drying option yet

Bon courage !

Hi Simon

Can you share the brand name on the anti rust paint please?

Thanks

Peter
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« Reply #156 on: 11 January, 2014, 03:03:27 PM »

The make is "RENAULAC" and I think it may only be available here in France. On the plus side you can have it mixed to one of about 1000 colours. 2.5L costs just under 40 euros
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« Reply #157 on: 11 January, 2014, 06:02:54 PM »

Thanks for that James, I do recall you mentioning Dulux before, maybe for my next project !!!! Is the 3M underseal better than the Schutz and how does it compare in appearance? Would it be ok to use Waxoyl over it?


                         
it is a shutz type underseal but waxy , honestly no need to waxoil over it its a fantastic product as expected from 3M , goes on similar to shutz just looks far nicer and more wet look if you get what I mean , its not as thin as black waxoil or as transparent , next time your up I will show you, used it for years now with no problems at all, j
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« Reply #158 on: 11 January, 2014, 07:37:08 PM »

That 3M product sounds as though its exactly what I need, I hope it will not be long before I get back up to Wales, I have not been since August !!!!!

                          Andy
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« Reply #159 on: 12 January, 2014, 08:05:21 PM »


What's good about the dulux option is that its easy to get, goes on a treat, easy clean up and in any colour you can take to them to scan.  I was surprised when I heard of Parry success with it and was pleased to follow.

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« Reply #160 on: 12 January, 2014, 10:12:59 PM »

Thanks for the endorsement David, it is always great when a product is gets support from more than one independent user.

I will have to revisit the underside of the Gussie, I think that will need complete re-treatment. Consider that the present chassis black finish was done in the mid seventies!!! Paint technology has moved on apace in the last 40yrs.

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« Reply #161 on: 13 January, 2014, 09:01:24 AM »


Andy,

I might change my mind in another year Smiley   

Paint being as it is I can then blame the prep and still be none the wiser...

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« Reply #162 on: 13 January, 2014, 09:20:31 AM »

The trouble with blaming the prep David is that you, like me, do your own prep. Therefore any failure is due to choosing a rubbish product, or failing (again?) to do the prep work properly!!!!!  Whichever, we have only ourselves to blame. Usually at that point a find that merlot provides a useful point of solace!!!

                                  Andy
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« Reply #163 on: 13 January, 2014, 08:54:34 PM »

 it is a shutz type underseal but waxy , honestly no need to waxoil over it its a fantastic product as expected from 3M , goes on similar to shutz just looks far nicer and more wet look if you get what I mean , its not as thin as black waxoil or as transparent , next time your up I will show you, used it for years now with no problems at all, j
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James what is the 3M product called and can you get it in a clear as well?? I have seen some 3M rubberised underseal on ebay for £45 for 12 cans....
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« Reply #164 on: 14 January, 2014, 09:11:44 PM »

pretty sure its this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-Car-Body-Schutz-Black-Underseal-08861-x-12-/110647444902?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item19c31a05a6 which is what I think you have seen, I will double check the part number tomorrow (if I remember  Roll Eyes ) its only available in black, what do you want to do in clear?? j
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1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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