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« Reply #225 on: 20 July, 2014, 07:34:09 AM »

A little help please ....

Attached, I hope, at the correct orientation, is a photograph of the cover of the headlamp relay on my car ... a little the worse for wear. I am not sure how this happened, it might even have been like it when I bought the car. Anyway, I need a new one. Of course the question is, does anyone have one as a spare, preferably with at least one of the fixing screws please. I daresay the screws are standard thread, but getting the slot head is gradually becoming more difficult.

I wait with bated breath .....

                                   Andy

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« Reply #226 on: 20 July, 2014, 04:44:55 PM »

looks the same as appia, try the consortium  Wink
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
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« Reply #227 on: 20 July, 2014, 06:23:37 PM »

Brilliant, thanks James, will do!!

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« Reply #228 on: 20 July, 2014, 07:39:52 PM »

So, what the heck happened this weekend ....... well, Jim came out to play and we looked at that door that would not hang itself !!!! I tell you, it looks brilliant now!! Jim has done a excellent job, but of course, as soon as one job is done another stands out in front of you.

Today's task was to look at the sill trim, not straightforward I can assure you. The first not straightforward bit is to find all the bits that you need. To begin with, there are so many bits you do not know that you need ......... like the interior panels next to the rear 'seat', the rubber mats that cover the sills, not forgetting the timber packing pieces under them and then there are the aluminium trim panels on the A and B pillars, not to mention the drainage catch 'boxes' at each end of the sill!!!! Without all of those pieces it is not possible to set the aluminium sill trims in the door opening!!

After a lot of trial and error, especially the latter, we decided that we had sorted it, great progress!!

Also, we have stripped the paint from many of the trim panels that must be sprayed with the bodyshell, slowly but surely we are getting there .......

                                                          Andy

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« Reply #229 on: 20 July, 2014, 08:55:32 PM »

Brilliant, thanks James, will do!!

                 Andy

Great if the Appia Con. can sort this out. Some online searching (CEAM deviolux) suggests they are available, but also that they are rare and also used on 250/330 Ferraris, which could drive prices up (as Appia usage could bring it down, no offence to the honourable Appisti intended!). Apparently also used on Maserati 3500.

There's one on ebay.it (last of the links below) for 100 Euros.

Some links:
http://saxonparts.com/ceam-bachelite-deviolue-headlight-switching-relay/#

http://www.aurelia-b22.com/16.html - scroll down

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MASERATI-3500-GT-LANCIA-AURELIA-DEVIOLUX-CEAM-NUOVO-ORIGINALE-/360791731358?pt=Ricambi_automobili&hash=item5400dcec9e
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« Reply #230 on: 20 July, 2014, 09:21:00 PM »

is this the fella??


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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #231 on: 21 July, 2014, 07:30:29 PM »

Certainly looks like it, would you put it aside for me please James.

I keep thinking I will be up to visit, but there is just so much going on at the moment ... got the Harrogate trade fair out of the way, am now a grandfather for the 11th time, no. 12 due in 3 weeks!!!

I am still pursuing a new loom, more information as and when ...

Then we come to the rubber mats. It is necessary to have those for the sills to enable the sill trims to be positioned and thus for the drainage 'catch boxes' to be positioned. Once you start to look at the mats the Cicognani website becomes essential reading, but do sit down first, the prices are eye-watering!!!!! I am delighted to say that after a few heart stopping moments I did, over a period of two days, find all the mats. Not only did I find them, but they are all in very good usable condition with the possible exception of the mat under the drivers feet .... not really that surprising!! We had an astonishing amount of rain yesterday afternoon, the workshop roof gutter system failed and huge amounts of rain gushed from the gutter onto the footway. Always being one to try to do my bit for the planet, I decided that, in T shirt and shorts , it would be appropriate to put mats out on the footway, give them a little squirt of Fairy liquid and give them a good brush down with a broom. After decades of lying in the car and collecting dirt, it was astonishing to see their excellent condition once cleaned. So that saved me some 800, but I still have to deal with all the seals etc. Those seals that I have inspected are in an horrendous condition and must be replaced, so there will still be a few hundred pounds spent with Cicognani. Has anyone any experience of using off-the-shelf seals such as those offered by Woolies, C O H Baines Ltd, and etc., there seems to be great scope for saving a significant amount of money!!

That is where we are at the moment with a lot more to follow.

                                                       Andy
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« Reply #232 on: 21 July, 2014, 08:16:28 PM »

Talking about "screws' - I seem to be able to find slotted screws (set or self-tapper), but it's the Phillips domed, countersunk ones that I a having difficulty with. They seem freely available in the States, but the postage for small quantities is horrendous ......

Look forward to seeing some more piccies , please !



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« Reply #233 on: 21 July, 2014, 08:21:56 PM »

Andy make your own loom its easy, I hate electrics and always had a phobia to re wiring, the augusta I have in had no loom what so ever, I bought everything from AES , all the loom is in black cotton braided and looks fantastic and after the 1st day I found myself really enjoying it  Huh?
http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/
rubber seals , try these , always works for me
http://www.phoenixtrim.co.uk/
I found most seals for augustas and aprilia's from them or woollies , I will put some better photos of loom up when its finished, this is just roughly drawn through stage, its now more or less finished however photo's are on camera and its in work


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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #234 on: 21 July, 2014, 08:24:32 PM »

Talking about "screws' - I seem to be able to find slotted screws (set or self-tapper), but it's the Phillips domed, countersunk ones that I a having difficulty with. They seem freely available in the States, but the postage for small quantities is horrendous ......

Look forward to seeing some more piccies , please !




http://www.wurth.co.uk/fasteners-general-metric-imperial/bolts-and-screws/countersunk-screws
http://www.wurth.co.uk/fasteners-general-metric-imperial/tapping-thread-rolling-drilling-screws/self-tapping-screws/screw-self-tapping-raised-countersunk-stainless-a2-m6-3x50-din-7983
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #235 on: 22 July, 2014, 07:11:30 PM »

Andy , a few pics of augusta electrics , honestly easy when you get into it, j


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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #236 on: 22 July, 2014, 07:35:53 PM »

Nice .....
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« Reply #237 on: 17 August, 2014, 06:21:46 PM »

 I am now a grandfather for the 12th time, fortunately all is well although there have been some worrying moments with both the latest arrivals.

I am still trying to resolve the wiring problem. I am now tending towards the Chugga DIY route, primarily because my proposed supplier has had to put things on hold for the moment. I have rewired my Gussie, but the B20 is probably twice the job. Decision day will probably be Wednesday when my friendly auto electrician will be visiting !!!

Anyway, I have been having fun with other bits, the shell is now deemed ready for the spray shop, but before I deliver her I must finish preparing all those small pieces that must also be sprayed with the shell. There are a hell of a lot more of them than I anticipated and they all seem fiddly!!!

Getting there!!!!!

                    Andy
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« Reply #238 on: 17 August, 2014, 06:40:14 PM »


There's a couple of guys with a great reputation in the VSCC for rewires.  From memory they come to you with all the gear. I thought there was a link off the VSCC site but not anymore.  Might be in a newsletter...

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« Reply #239 on: 17 August, 2014, 07:57:00 PM »

Help required please ....

Somehow, I have lost one complete set of the brake adjusters .... that is the snail cam complete with short length of bolt, the nut, the pin and the spring with its cup. Jim has made a new snail cam with its short length of stud and the nut, the pin is not a problem, but what I desperately need is a spring and its cup. Is anyone out there able to help please?

                                      Andy

Today, after a eureka moment, the spring and cup loss problem has been solved!!!!!

I decided to have a look at the spare brake assembly I have for the Appia. At first it seemed that the Appia adjuster was a straight swap for that on the B20. Seems reasonable, interchangeable parts between two models being produced by the same company at the same time ............... but this is Lancia, reasonable, or common sense have no bearing on practice!!! 

So, the cam is a different profile and a different thickness, the bolt linking it all together is longer in the Appia than it is in the B20, BUT, the main thing is that the spring and its protective cup are THE SAME!!!!! Those are the bits I need so this problem has been overcome.

Needless to say, as ever, there are a few more problems coming to light!!!!

                                         Andy
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