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« Reply #15 on: 28 January, 2010, 10:56:23 PM »

Any good?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kappa-ESTATE-LHD-Spanish-registered-IN-SPAIN_W0QQitemZ150409046742QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item230513ead6

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« Reply #16 on: 28 January, 2010, 11:02:55 PM »

Sorry - Kappa, not a Lybra....
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« Reply #17 on: 29 January, 2010, 09:33:06 AM »

Hello Mark,
Many thanks for the info, very interesting about the insurance. I have phoned classic line and a few others who have told me I would only be covered for 30 days continously, so would have to return to UK on day 30 and then go back out there, (not very practical)
Also I understand that you can only take your car put there for 6 months, then it has to be registered, this info I got from the Portuguese embassy. If you could le me know where you got this info from then that would be excellent. We are thinking of going for good, but dont want to burn any bridges.
thanks again
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« Reply #18 on: 01 February, 2010, 08:02:23 PM »

that is exactly what I was told on both those issues before leaving.

I guess the difference is that I still maintained UK residency.  As we are all in the EU, they cannot force you to swap plates if the car is MOT'd insured and taxed in UK (I did mine the day before going).  Furthermore, I went to spain for the odd weekend, so technically I never spent 6 months in Portugal... in case anyone asked! With regard to Insurance, I was told slightly different (about 90 days) until I was actually out there and challenged it.  As I fortunately never had to claim, I cannot confirm how limited my cover would have been in practice, but for sure the insurers conceded that they did indeed need to cover me.  I am not an insurance expert, so I cannot quote chapter and verse.  But through my uncle's friend (a broker in portugal) I was told about this.  Unfortunately, my uncle is still away and I have not spoken to him yet.  I will do shortly though.

I agree in not burning any bridges... I had planned to stay for some years, but recession saw to that.  Glad I didn't swap plates after 90 days.

When are you off and whereabouts in Portugal are you going to?  If you fancy playing it safe, try someone like Ibex Insurance to insure in Portugal on UK plates and pop to Spain for a week's holiday about 6 months in Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: 18 February, 2010, 08:17:36 PM »

Right...
Just confirmed with my uncle the particulars of my visit... and I do recall correctly. However, as it is a family trait to get confused, my uncle is going to ask his friend/ broker again.  Watch this space...
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« Reply #20 on: 18 February, 2010, 09:37:06 PM »

Hi Lima, thanks for the continued info, I missed your post on the 1st Feb for some reason, but I am still here for any advice.
cheers
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« Reply #21 on: 19 February, 2010, 10:00:24 PM »

Right, my final conclusion:

Uncle phoned me back today.  He caught up with the insurance broker friend and asked again about my year out.

As I suspected, his advice was that if I already have UK insurance I am covered and they are duty bound to cover you.  However, I do not purport to be an insurance expert and I never met the broker in question.  I believe it to be a trustworthy source (as the advice did result in MY insurers conceding), but my uncle's broker friend could just have been some bum living in a box for all I know.  If in doubt, take a policy after 90 days with the specialist UK ex pats firms (for cars in Iberia with UK plates).

As for the 6 months limit for keeping a car in Portugal, his advice was to take a trip to Spain (not far from any point in Portugal) get some petrol and keep the receipt.  Better still, get someone in spain to post you a petrol receipt!  If you get stopped by the fuzz, dig it out of the glove box.  The clock on the 6 month rule is apparently restarted as soon as you leave Portuguese soil... quite literally!  Silly really, but the Portuguese love unnecessary bureaucracy.

Again... this is what I was told by someone else... it's not exactly a case of chinese whispers, but equally it's not gospel from a traffic officer, lawyer or judge.  Hope it gives a steer in the right direction (pardon the pun!).
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« Reply #22 on: 19 February, 2010, 11:26:42 PM »

Hi Lima,
Thanks for info, I always thought that you could drive into spain and out again but the problem being the UK plates, also it will need a UK MOT when the year is up.

What I dont understand is that we are meant to be one united Europe and all this mess should have been over and done with a long time ago. It seems its only cartain things that we are united, the rest is just tons of red tape as usual.

thanks again anyway, I will try and find an expat insurance company, and get a quote from them.

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« Reply #23 on: 20 February, 2010, 11:29:15 AM »

In my experience only one thing truly transgresses the european boundaries and remains constant throughout... and that's a love of 'just a little bit special' cars.  I have driven to Portugal, Poland, Italy and everything in between in my Barchetta and my Fulvia, and each time I've stopped (and indeed sometimes whist still moving) I've engaged with the locals and visitors alike.  I have even made new friends as a result.
Have a good trip, and all the best... Mark
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« Reply #24 on: 21 February, 2010, 12:58:18 PM »

don't know if you found a car but lybras are ten a penny in belgium and antwerp is only an hour and a half drive from calais.?

At first glance here is the local website of the free ads selected on lybras . Choice enough between 1500 en 5000 I think
... http://www.kapaza.be/Autos/Lancia/?id=3&sort=date2&country=be&q=lybra&lang0=1&lang1=0&TypeV=1&TypeA=1&langFilterActive=true&photo=0&lock-regio=0&sid=858&cca_options=&#results
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« Reply #25 on: 21 February, 2010, 02:31:51 PM »

Hi William,

Why so cheap?7000euros
http://www.kapaza.be/Autos/Lancia/23707143/Lancia_Delta_1_4_T_Jet_16v.html

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« Reply #26 on: 22 February, 2010, 09:28:22 PM »

must be a mistake, or otherwise its a year old with 150K km on the clock.....
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« Reply #27 on: 22 February, 2010, 11:24:06 PM »

must be a mistake, or otherwise its a year old with 150K km on the clock.....

Did look a bit of a bargain!
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