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« Reply #150 on: 20 September, 2009, 03:44:06 PM » |
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unfortunatly the engine is a tad too long, the sump sits on the front axle and bell housing up against the bulk head, next plan is to strip the ardea engine and see if bigger linors could be fitted as well as the blower, another alternative would be to fit a tuned appia engine, main problem with this is that the appia is columb change "floor change box is like looking for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow" and to fit to an ardea box would be difficult as the starter motor is on the opposite side of the engine, so back to planning again folks  anyway i think i've found some more suitable bumpers, i know what they are off do you?? see what you think  |
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« Reply #151 on: 20 September, 2009, 05:46:30 PM » |
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Surely modifying the bulkhead a little to fit the Aprilia engine would not be a problem for someone so deft with the welding torch as yourself??
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chugga boom
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« Reply #152 on: 20 September, 2009, 06:42:13 PM » |
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i did think about it but it needs about 4 inches extra room to clear the front axle and drop to the right height, this then gives the problem of the fuel tank, gear lever, will it clear the pedal box etc, with all this in mind i think i'll knock it on the head and have a look at the origional engine next  |
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #153 on: 20 September, 2009, 09:36:43 PM » |
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well been busy again today, tried the aprilia engine and to put it blunt NO CHANCE!!!, david i've still along way to go on the body work yet before "oiley bits" but hoping to have it in atleast spray filler by christmas,
Ardea with a power bulge  That would be different  Brian 8227  |
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« Reply #154 on: 21 September, 2009, 08:36:59 AM » |
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Moving the firewall sounds obvious - until you remember that there was so little space he's only just streatched the cab backwards a similar amount. Carry on too far along such lines and it will look like an E-Type Jag and have a pickup bed with space for little more than a 5 litre can of petrol.
With the Appia engine could you graft an Aprilia box on? If not what would it take to add the column change?
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chugga boom
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« Reply #155 on: 21 September, 2009, 02:37:08 PM » |
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3RD picture from the bottom on the previous page give a good indication of how much too long the aprilia engin is, bear in mind the bell housing studs were hard up against the bulkhead at the same time, biggest problem with using an appia engine with either the ardea or aprilia box is the starter motor is on the wrong side so would take a lot of modding to fit , havent given up yet so "will keep you all posted!!" |
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195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
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« Reply #156 on: 21 September, 2009, 03:06:24 PM » |
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Have you tried an Appia engine for size yet? Could an Appia column change box be converted to a floor change? Perhaps with a remote like a later Fulvia. Otherwise there's always the "obvious" solution of an Aurelia transaxle How bad would it be modifying a gearbox to cope with the starter being the other side? On Scrapheap Challange they'd carve out the clearance and bolt a bit of folded tin over the hole. David |
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« Reply #157 on: 21 September, 2009, 10:14:22 PM » |
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dear lancialan, please please please dont find anymore lancia comercials , if you do then please please please dont show me, the appia in turin...........looks like i may have bought it  , its still in negotiation but looks about 85% that its coming to wales!!!, Congratulations! Thats great news and I am pleased to have been instrumental in a small way. Sounds like a great roadtrip - somebody really needs to go down there and see what else they have lying around - but perhaps you will just have it collected? Wales will be the richer for it when it arrives anyhow... |
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« Reply #158 on: 23 September, 2009, 01:16:13 PM » |
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well folks, i've just bought the appia pickup from turin , i'll be bringing it back to wales in about a month, another huge project, even the itailians cant believe i've bought it and that its going all the way to the uk |
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1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
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« Reply #159 on: 23 September, 2009, 02:37:06 PM » |
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Is it just a shell? I'm sure you will have plenty of Appia bits, but did you know that the Appia Camionchinos had Aurelia front axles!
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« Reply #160 on: 23 September, 2009, 04:04:12 PM » |
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Good-on-ya !!
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chugga boom
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« Reply #161 on: 23 September, 2009, 04:27:58 PM » |
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yeah i knew the axle was aurelia, apparently B24 it is just a bare shell, already sourced bonnet bumper and grill, going to modify s3 appia doors "make new skins etc" as no one seems to have s1 or s2 doors to sell, may have to mod the dash aslo as no one has s1 instruments, but like the ardea i'm not bothered about origionality more about just having it , will start another thread when i've got it but if anyone knows of s1 appia bits or aurelia front axle or wheels LET ME KNOW!!!, once again alan thanks but please NO MORE !!! |
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #162 on: 23 September, 2009, 08:19:36 PM » |
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chugga boom
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« Reply #163 on: 23 September, 2009, 08:26:13 PM » |
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yeah i've had that kinda reaction before , but yours made me laugh , cant wait to get it now gettin itchy fingers, brains working overtime planning my next venture |
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1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV "THE BEAST!!!"
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