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Author Topic: Series Three Berlina returned to the road  (Read 16700 times)
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« Reply #90 on: 01 March, 2021, 08:24:19 AM »

Using a clamp on the flexible hoses in turn, you can find out if the brake pedal becomes stiff once a brake line is blocked, this would indicate a major problem with one or more drums, Andrea
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Fulvia GTE
Fulvia Sport 1.3 S
Fulvia Montecarlo
Fulvia Coupe 1.3 S
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« Reply #91 on: 01 March, 2021, 08:36:43 AM »

Thanks, Andrea, I have a mobile professional mechanic to do this stuff for me.  I realised long ago that car maintenance is not for me.
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1962 Appia Berlina
1975 2000 HF Coupe
1979 Beta 1600 Coupe

1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe
1977 Princess 2200 HL
1981 Lotus Eclat S2 FOR SALE
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza
1982 Moto Morini 350 S
1983 Land Rover SIII 88
2009 Jaguar XK
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« Reply #92 on: 12 March, 2021, 04:48:47 PM »

Wow at the engineering of the brakes (front hubs), and this was in its day the cheapest Lancia!





The front brakes are OK, so it looks like new cylinders for the rear brakes should have the car back on the road.
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1962 Appia Berlina
1975 2000 HF Coupe
1979 Beta 1600 Coupe

1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe
1977 Princess 2200 HL
1981 Lotus Eclat S2 FOR SALE
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza
1982 Moto Morini 350 S
1983 Land Rover SIII 88
2009 Jaguar XK
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« Reply #93 on: 12 March, 2021, 04:51:01 PM »

I  much prefer the full sized front plate




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1962 Appia Berlina
1975 2000 HF Coupe
1979 Beta 1600 Coupe

1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe
1977 Princess 2200 HL
1981 Lotus Eclat S2 FOR SALE
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza
1982 Moto Morini 350 S
1983 Land Rover SIII 88
2009 Jaguar XK
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« Reply #94 on: 13 March, 2021, 12:27:34 PM »

Hi Gerard
we can't see your pictures and you know how we need our fix of pictures of the oily bits of old Lancias
Clarkey
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Fulvia Coupe S2 Flavia Coupe 1967 1.8 Kugelfischer Prisma 1.6 carb Y10 Fila Y10 Touring Dedra 1.8 Dedra 2.0 Turbo Appia S1
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« Reply #95 on: 13 March, 2021, 03:12:13 PM »

Pictures fixed, I hope.

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1962 Appia Berlina
1975 2000 HF Coupe
1979 Beta 1600 Coupe

1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe
1977 Princess 2200 HL
1981 Lotus Eclat S2 FOR SALE
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza
1982 Moto Morini 350 S
1983 Land Rover SIII 88
2009 Jaguar XK
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« Reply #96 on: 13 March, 2021, 10:57:10 PM »

Pictures fixed, I hope.



Hi Gerard

Not the one immediately above, just says not found...

Peter
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« Reply #97 on: 14 March, 2021, 03:43:30 AM »

I have tried again above. Here is some more 1962 engineering porn (two pictures, I hope).  

My late dad was an automotive production engineer for Rootes and British Leyland (he worked on Michael Edwardes' rescue team).  He and his colleagues were forever hampered by cost cutting and worn out tooling.  My dad would have loved the quality on the Appia (and the Flavia too).  




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1962 Appia Berlina
1975 2000 HF Coupe
1979 Beta 1600 Coupe

1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe
1977 Princess 2200 HL
1981 Lotus Eclat S2 FOR SALE
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza
1982 Moto Morini 350 S
1983 Land Rover SIII 88
2009 Jaguar XK
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« Reply #98 on: 14 March, 2021, 08:45:22 AM »

Wow at the engineering of the brakes (front hubs), and this was in its day the cheapest Lancia!




It may have been the cheapest Lancia, but cheap it was not!

In 1961 the retail price of an Appia was 1,538; for that money you could have bought a Mk2 Jaguar (1,534) or two Hillman Minx de luxes (765 each), or
maybe a Ford Zodiac at 957 plus an Anglia for the wife (another 589).
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1953 Lancia Appia Series 1
1931 Austin Seven deluxe saloon
1914 Saxon Model A roadster


(previously owned Lancias: 1958 Appia Pininfarina coupe, 1987 Delta LX, 1986 Delta cabriolet, 1991 Dedra 1.8, 1993 Dedra 1.6)
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« Reply #99 on: 14 March, 2021, 01:33:29 PM »

When you get up to a Flaminia Sedan at 3602 you could buy two 3.4 litre Jag Mk2s at 1781 and have change left over.
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« Reply #100 on: 14 March, 2021, 02:07:29 PM »

That's 56,037 today.  Factor in inflation between 1961 and 2021 and the Flaminia would cost just under 82,000.
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1962 Appia Berlina
1975 2000 HF Coupe
1979 Beta 1600 Coupe

1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe
1977 Princess 2200 HL
1981 Lotus Eclat S2 FOR SALE
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza
1982 Moto Morini 350 S
1983 Land Rover SIII 88
2009 Jaguar XK
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« Reply #101 on: 14 March, 2021, 02:41:24 PM »

Wasn't Lancia's epitaph 'Too much, too nice' I ran a Ford Anglia for a while and as my mate Paul from Darlington would say lucky bag engineering...but hey if that is what you could afford. An interesting exercise would be to see the price to an Italian at the same time as I'm sure purchase tax bumps up the OTR price considerably.
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Fulvia Coupe S2 Flavia Coupe 1967 1.8 Kugelfischer Prisma 1.6 carb Y10 Fila Y10 Touring Dedra 1.8 Dedra 2.0 Turbo Appia S1
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« Reply #102 on: 14 March, 2021, 03:33:32 PM »

The British car prices include Purchase Tax, but yes, there was a sizeable Import Duty on the Lancia. But compare with other imports: a Fiat 1100 was 799 - you could have change from a Fiat 2100 (1,399) - a VW de luxe was 739, or a Volvo 122S was 1,319.
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1953 Lancia Appia Series 1
1931 Austin Seven deluxe saloon
1914 Saxon Model A roadster


(previously owned Lancias: 1958 Appia Pininfarina coupe, 1987 Delta LX, 1986 Delta cabriolet, 1991 Dedra 1.8, 1993 Dedra 1.6)
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« Reply #103 on: 14 March, 2021, 06:03:03 PM »

Note that by early 1975 a lightly optioned brand new Lancia 2000 HF Coupe cost 3255 on the road.  By mid 1983 a brand new Lancia Montecarlo cost 8550 on the road.  Source:  my HF history file.
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1962 Appia Berlina
1975 2000 HF Coupe
1979 Beta 1600 Coupe

1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe
1977 Princess 2200 HL
1981 Lotus Eclat S2 FOR SALE
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza
1982 Moto Morini 350 S
1983 Land Rover SIII 88
2009 Jaguar XK
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« Reply #104 on: 21 March, 2021, 07:55:22 AM »

Update:  new rear brake cylinders arrived very rapidly (next day) from an Italian supplier, and my mechanic has also designed a suitable alternator bracket, so the Appia should I hope be back on the road next week.  This will give me a Lancia to drive while the mech does needful repairs on my newly acquired 2000 HF and prepares my Beta Coupe for sale, but today it's a drive the Beta in a non thrashy way to the shops day.  
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1962 Appia Berlina
1975 2000 HF Coupe
1979 Beta 1600 Coupe

1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe
1977 Princess 2200 HL
1981 Lotus Eclat S2 FOR SALE
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza
1982 Moto Morini 350 S
1983 Land Rover SIII 88
2009 Jaguar XK
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