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« Reply #30 on: 04 February, 2017, 10:07:23 PM »

One of the comments on the link suggests just putting two bits of angle iron in the jaws of a workmate. I have tried that and found the location of the two deck pieces on the workmate aren't strong enough to take the load. The sheet bending wasn't very crisp or accurate and the workmate was strained. I shall have to look at making one of these.
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« Reply #31 on: 28 February, 2017, 09:52:54 PM »

A request for help please?

I am trying to track down a radiator for the dedra and I am struggling to identify which specific model I have?

I have two options:
LANCIA DEDRA (835_) 2.0 i.e. Turbo (162Hp) petrol from 04-1991 to 04-1999
LANCIA DEDRA (835_) 2.0 Turbo (177Hp) petrol from 11-1990 to 11-1994

My car was built in December 1990 and has a A8 engine, (not an A8.046), I think, as the engine number is different that originally supplied!  Nothing is straight forward with this car.

EPER seems to be down at the moment so I can't check on there.

Any help is appreciated.

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« Reply #32 on: 28 February, 2017, 10:39:57 PM »

Ok, some more high level googling reveals this based on Turbo suppliers info:

Modello: Dedra 2,0 Turbo (835AQ)
Codice Motore: 835A8.000
Cilindrata: 1995
Potenza Del Motore: 177 Cv
Periodo Di Costruzione: Nov 1990 to Jun 1994
Codici Identificativi: 465103-0002 / 7729471

Does the collective agree ?

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« Reply #33 on: 02 March, 2017, 10:05:18 PM »

The Dedra Turbo was introduced into the UK a year later than the rest of the range, i.e. April '91 and it had a 165 BHP engine. Wasn't aware there were two versions, although perhaps by the time it became the HF Turbo in 1993 it possibly had a cat fitted (detuned?)
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« Reply #34 on: 02 March, 2017, 10:55:51 PM »

Hi All,

I used to own L136SWS a 1994 Dedra Turbo which bemused MOT testers every year as it had no catalytic convertor which I believe was regulation by 1994. They could see it was a genuine factory exhaust system and had not been modified in any way. To this day I regret selling it as it was a near perfect balance between performance and comfort, even the good lady loved it. My 2nd series Delta I have now is basically a LHD Dedra Coupe, but the firmer ride in HF spec. certainly compromises the comfort. Your efforts in returning your Dedra to the road will be well worth it for this underappreciated model. good luck.

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« Reply #35 on: 01 April, 2017, 10:24:16 PM »

Arch de Trimophe,
 
So, what has been happening since I last checked in?
 
Well, progress has been made and a potential world first achieved.
 
During the welding and bodywork phase Father Dermist commented that the rear wheel arches really were in a terrible state.  This I think was partly due to the fact that FIAT (Lancia) didn't know what to do with the wheel arch / rear wing interface.  Theres gaps for mud to get into and little ledges looking to attract corrosion.
 
So as the welding came to an end my dad had some spare* time to devote his talents to tackling the thorny issue that FIAT failed to get to grips with.  
 
Cue, Chicken mesh.
 

 
Ok, this is mark 1. The chicken mech was formed to the shape of the wheel arch and then 1.5mm thick length of steel approximately 20mm wide were strengtheners where added to form a kind of skeleton.  This will become clearer in a minute.
 
Fibre glass was liberally added in all the right places and voila!
 

 
It took quite a bit of fitting and Dad thought he could improve the technique so here we go Mark 2 on the opposite side with the added excitement of the petrol tank filler neck and support being in the way.
 

 
See the skeleton now?  This has to bend round the filler neck(plastic part).
 

 

 

 
This was then filled with newspaper (rather than chicken mesh) and again liberally fibre glassed.
 
Voila! 
 

 
Fitted it looks like this
 

 
Both liners use the fittings that are already available in the rear wheel arches plus a few M5 holes drilled through a strengthening rib.
 
Hopefully they will prevent any further damage due to corrosion happening.
 
 
Whilst Dad did that, I scratched myself and got on with dyeing the carpet.
 

 
As removed.
 

 
Sun damage
 

 
Initial try with the spray dye.
 

 
Overall view after the first pass.  I have two more cans to go.
 
When I left you last time the car painted a fetching shade of red oxide, inside and underneath.  Another coat of black this time for the underneath and a matching coat of white applied to the interior.
 

 
Sound deadening mats were added to replace the ones removed previously.
 


 
So, we are bang up to date and momentum is gathering.
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« Reply #36 on: 01 April, 2017, 10:28:57 PM »


Chicken mesh, grp, newspaper.  Music to my ears.
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« Reply #37 on: 03 April, 2017, 08:48:41 PM »

Did the moulds for the arch liners survive? You could have some customers or make a few bob hiring them out.
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« Reply #38 on: 30 July, 2018, 10:02:51 PM »

So, since I last updated the thread a lot has happened and yet not a lot.
The Dedra was evicted from the safety of the garage as the Beta had to come back 'home'.

Dedra 2017 by , on Flickr

So the pressure was on to get the car rolling.
The rear axle assembly was installed along with new Brake lines. 
Dedra 2017 by , on Flickr

The front subframe was attached the driveshafts and wheels installed.
Dedra 2017 by , on Flickr

The worlds most complicated air ducting was loaded into the cabin,
Dedra 2017 by , on Flickr

The carpet was manhandled back into position
Dedra 2017 by , on Flickr

Finally it was rolled out into the daylight, minus a few key parts.  (Note fine weather!)
Dedra 2017 by , on Flickr

The doors, boot and bonnet were hastily applied and with that, the summer of 2017 was almost at a close.
Dedra 2017 by , on Flickr

Its a shame that exterior is so tatty as the underside now looks perfect! Still the MOT tester will appreciate it!

The engine comes next...
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« Reply #39 on: 31 July, 2018, 07:45:12 AM »

At least summer 2018 is conducive to outdoors restoration work.
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« Reply #40 on: 31 July, 2018, 09:37:48 AM »

I had one of these best car ever according to my 2 sons...bit thirsty on full power though...grin factor was worth it... after the Beta rust scandal the corrosion already nibbling at the car was a shame as it made my mind up to move it on...
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« Reply #41 on: 01 August, 2018, 10:05:47 PM »

Nice to see another Dedra, very much an underrated car.
I've had a 1.8, a 2.0 and a turbo.
Turbo was one of my all time favourite cars.
Sold it to a good friend of mine Jim who still has it, parked up in one of the sheds where I'm doing my integrale so took a sneaky picture this afternoon....


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« Reply #42 on: 02 August, 2018, 09:46:08 AM »

Very nice!!!
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« Reply #43 on: 02 August, 2018, 09:23:58 PM »

Seconded!
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« Reply #44 on: 03 August, 2018, 11:04:18 AM »

Thrice.
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