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Author Topic: Project for sale - with an MGA engine?  (Read 5097 times)
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donw
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« Reply #15 on: 25 July, 2018, 08:15:26 AM »

What do you know now appeared on PREWARCAR as a private ad!!!

https://www.prewarcar.com/237173-1936-lancia-augusta

£4950 still thinks its an MGB engine!
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Don Williamson
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« Reply #16 on: 25 July, 2018, 11:54:32 AM »

"beautifully dilapidated"
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« Reply #17 on: 21 August, 2018, 08:35:32 AM »

https://www.prewarcar.com/beaulieu-autojumble-comes-this-year-with-a-challenge

Interesting, wonder how far they will get with finding Augusta parts.  Getting the MGA engine going should not be a problem but it would be better with an Augusta engine!
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« Reply #18 on: 04 September, 2018, 07:49:18 PM »

They got it running at least....and even before that there was an offer of 6500 UKP, which I found hard to believe...
I wonder who wants to pay that sort of money for such a bad car.

On the other hand Bonhams hammered a new E-type bonnet for 16.000 pounds (plus expenses and VAT!!!!) while a new one costs about 8000....
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« Reply #19 on: 05 September, 2018, 07:59:17 AM »

They were expecting an offer of £11,000 to £12,000 for it! Some hopes!
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« Reply #20 on: 18 September, 2018, 06:05:30 AM »

Now (again!) for sale on Prewarcar....so the bid they claimed to have at Beaulieu was probably fake (or did they really think it was too low?Huh???)
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« Reply #21 on: 18 September, 2018, 04:05:17 PM »

https://www.prewarcar.com/276944-who-will-finish-our-beaulieu-challenge-the-1936-lancia-augusta-mg-special-is-now-for-sale

Who will finish our Beaulieu challenge: the 1936 Lancia Augusta “MG special” is now for sale!
We are looking for a new caretaker for this Lancia. Someone who can make the car drivable and will actually use it! We had the pleasure to work on it during the Beaulieu Autojumble, as you can read here: https://www.prewarcar.com/the-challenge-accepted-and-succeeded-finding-the-real-spirit-of-beaulieu

The engine runs, but we didn't have enough time to get the whole car running (unfortunately!). It is the perfect daily driver, for one who loves old cars but also likes to fit in modern traffic.

The Augusta has hydraulic brakes and other features that feel like a modern car and because of the MG-A engine inside, you also have the power for modern traffic.

The car comes with its original registration document, original manual, a trunk with parts but most important, with a lot of smiling faces!

Can be viewed and picked up in the south of The Netherlands or we can bring it to you (in a trailer)

Price: € 7500.

We hope the new owner will give us an update every now and then!

 

For more information, please contact Laurens at office@prewarcar.com or +31 6 21276908

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« Reply #22 on: 28 January, 2021, 07:21:47 PM »

Hi everyone,
I am the new owner of the Augusta with the MG engine. I have bought it more than two years ago, originally with the intention to rebuild it in one year and drive it to Beaulieu in 2019. For various reasons (the main one being the state of the car) I did not make it, but the rebuild goes on. Everything on the car was terrible (except for the engine, which was just a little bad), the body was shot, the rear axle broken, the front axle bent, etc. All in all a nice challenge :-).
I will need some advice from time to time, the first one now: can somebody post a photo of the hinge that holds the lid of the trunk? Mine was definitelly not original and there was not much left of it anyway. Many thanks for any advice.
BTW, I have exchanged emails with a son of the man, who put the MG engine in, and he remembers the car very well from his childhood.


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« Reply #23 on: 29 January, 2021, 08:25:02 AM »

You're a brave man, taking that on! Good luck with it.
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« Reply #24 on: 29 January, 2021, 09:22:43 AM »

I'll take some pictures today and post them on the forum tonight. Is it just the hinge or also the spring loaded stay?
In view of the supposed benefits of the Augusta having such a short V4 engine I have often wondered how the MGA engine was squeezed into your car - pictures would be interesting!

Cheers
Mike
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« Reply #25 on: 29 January, 2021, 03:53:36 PM »

It already looks much better now!  Very please someone took this project on...if it was up to e I would make it original again....but of course that is up to you to decide!
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« Reply #26 on: 29 January, 2021, 09:10:50 PM »

Thanks Mikenoangelo, I just need the photo of the hinge.
The engine fits in very nicely, it is complete with a MG gearbox, just the gear lever is further back.
I will keep the engine in the car, after all, it has been there for 60 years. In fact the modification was one of the reasons I fell for this car.


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« Reply #27 on: 29 January, 2021, 09:21:29 PM »

Here are a few pictures. Very scruffy I'm afraid as the previous owner was very fond of grease (but not the JohnTravolta version!) but as a result there is not much corrosion.
The hinge has 23 loops, alternating 29 and 33 mm long, spaced by a 5mm gap so each pair occupies 72mm including two gaps. The overall length of the pin is 870mm x 8mm diameter. The overall length of the hinge is 835 mm so the pin protrudes at each end.

The hinge pin can be tapped outeither side though a hole in the spring hanger bracket casting. The loops of the hinge are formed integrally with the inner skin of the boot lid and the lower edge of the cill across the bottom of the boot. A bit of a nightmare to reproduce but perhaps a commercially available hinge could be welded to the cill and the boot lid inner skin after trimming of the original loops.

Hope this helps!
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« Reply #28 on: 29 January, 2021, 09:31:38 PM »

The engine fits amazingly well. I'd also keep it in place - a fun project and probably a lot less hassle to complete it as a special than to try to recover original bits to make another standard Augusta.

You might need to raise the axle ratio to suit the engine. The Augusta's 16.5mph / 1000 rpm is a bit low as it will be no heavier than an MGA. Original Augusta 850kg, MGA 905KG. Alternatively and easier see if you can fit a Mazda MX5 five speed box which I believe is commonly fitted in MGs. This would give 4th gear as normal (16.5 mph/1000rpm) and 5th gear 20.3 mph/1000. There are also kits to fit a Ford Sierra box to the MGA which have the same 5th gear ratio as the Mazda. The cruciform frame of the Augusta would probably preclude fitting an aftermarket Laycock overdrive to the MG box.

Looking forward to hearing more of your progress.

Mike

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« Reply #29 on: 30 January, 2021, 02:00:55 PM »

Hello Lojzik ?

About 8 years ago, I have restored my Augusta. I had to get rid of lots of corrosion, by replacing sheet metal. I have hundreds of photos from the process and other information. Please feel free to have some info if that helps with your restoration.

I look forward to see more of your car in this forum.

Regards  Karl


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