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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: Charles Frodsham on 07 October, 2017, 06:47:07 PM



Title: Fulvia Valve Clearances
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 07 October, 2017, 06:47:07 PM
I have looked through all previous posts for Fulvia and can't see any information or advice on setting valve clearances.....surely something done fairly regularly by owners. Have I missed this?

Am I right in saying the clearances on the 1600 are greater than for the 1300? Specifically 0.2mm inlet and 0.3mm exhaust, as opposed to 0.15 and 0.25 respectively on the 1300.

Is there a tool, or something that can be improvised, to adjust clearances?

Any other pitfalls or experience greatly received.

Charles


Title: Re: Fulvia Valve Clearances
Post by: Richard Fridd on 07 October, 2017, 07:20:07 PM
I don't know anything other than feeler guages and spanners?


Title: Re: Fulvia Valve Clearances
Post by: Jai Sharma on 07 October, 2017, 09:54:23 PM
I also remember that the clearances on 1.6 were different to 1.3.
Omicron used to sell a nice little gadget to help you adjust them finely. It was not expensive and I guess they probably still do them. Otherwise as Richard says, feeler gauges and spanner.


Title: Re: Fulvia Valve Clearances
Post by: the.cern on 08 October, 2017, 03:24:55 AM
I have a lovely gadget that sets tappet clearances based on the required clearance and the thread pitch of the adjustment screw.
The principle is very simple, a 'clicker' system gives an audio output to the angle through which the adjustment screw is turned, which can be translated into a gap measurement based on the thread pitch.
This far too difficult to describe in words ..... here is a link to a currently available version!!

https://www.frost.co.uk/gunson-clikadjust-tappet-adjuster.html

I hope I can find mine as it is so simple ...... Recently I have been using a spanner and feeler gauges, but the tool is far quicker and easier.

                                                    Andy


Title: Re: Fulvia Valve Clearances
Post by: lancialulu on 08 October, 2017, 07:23:42 AM
I seem to remember those values quoted are correct.

The clicker adjuster (I have one too) is designed for agricultural machinery with tappet adjusters with a slot in the top. Hence mine has not seen any use on a Lancia as Lancia Fulvia engines use a 3mm? square top.... so you need a little slot spanner (and feeler gauge)

The clicker type of adjuster is great in as much as it takes out wear in the top of the valve stem where it is being hit by the tappet. This may be an issue (was for me on one engine) if the engine has been rebuilt with valves without hardened (stellite) tips. A feeler gauge goes stright across the dent in the top of the valve giving a false reading/ very tappety engine.

I have a lovely gadget that sets tappet clearances based on the required clearance and the thread pitch of the adjustment screw.
The principle is very simple, a 'clicker' system gives an audio output to the angle through which the adjustment screw is turned, which can be translated into a gap measurement based on the thread pitch.
This far too difficult to describe in words ..... here is a link to a currently available version!!

https://www.frost.co.uk/gunson-clikadjust-tappet-adjuster.html

I hope I can find mine as it is so simple ...... Recently I have been using a spanner and feeler gauges, but the tool is far quicker and easier.

                                                    Andy


Title: Re: Fulvia Valve Clearances
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 08 October, 2017, 08:45:36 AM
Great information thanks.

I will contact Omicron on Monday!

I measured about 3.5mm for the top of the adjuster......will a 4mm spanner work? Or modify a 3mm spanner?

Where is the best place to measure clearances...top of valve or top of the short pushrod?

Sorry for all the questions , but I want to get it right.


Title: Re: Fulvia Valve Clearances
Post by: lancialulu on 08 October, 2017, 09:06:26 AM
I use a small adjustable spanner and remeasure after locking up. I measure between the push rod and tappet and directly on the valve for those without pushrods.. It is a bit fiddly on the Fulvia