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Model Technical and Interest => Aurelia => Topic started by: Parisien on 25 February, 2015, 08:06:24 AM



Title: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: Parisien on 25 February, 2015, 08:06:24 AM
The lower hinges/bolts have quite a bit of play in them, whats the best way to deal with same, drill out a slightly bigger bore and use bigger bolts or redo bores if practicable? Source for bolts or alternatives?

Thanks


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Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: DavidLaver on 25 February, 2015, 10:53:55 AM

Some ideas:

- Fill with braze and drill out standard.
- Drill and sleeve.
- Peen the outside which will shrink the inside.
- Depending which way the bolt goes get one made with a step to fit the larger hole.
- Knurl the bolt, it will grow on the peaks with the material pushed out of the indents.
- thicker grease?


Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: Parisien on 25 February, 2015, 05:48:37 PM
Thank you for those David, will run them past him, are the pins/hard to get (or off Omicron) or standard off the shelf size?

The car is 12 miles from me so need to plan my visits!

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Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: the.cern on 25 February, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
Hi Frank, sounds as though you are making real progress.

I had two hinge pins made. There was no play in any of them, but two had to be drilled out!!! They came without the slow lubrication spiral, so Jim simply cut one with an angle grinder. An incredibly neat job, especially considering the tool and more than adequate for purpose!!!!

Good luck,

                 Andy


Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: Parisien on 25 February, 2015, 08:35:54 PM
Well, my man had a chest infection this last few weeks, so trying to egg him on a bit now and get it into primer/filler, but just sorting a few other bits and bobs first.

Home/inhouse made or specialist firm?

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Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: simonandjuliet on 25 February, 2015, 08:43:38 PM
Positive sign that you are thinking about door hinges ! Coming together ?


Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: Parisien on 25 February, 2015, 08:55:17 PM
Well, in fits and starts, just need to get to a few fulcrum points, tip the balance in the projects favour......just to ensure everything lines up before painting and moving it on to next stage


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Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: the.cern on 26 February, 2015, 07:01:29 AM
Frank, the hinge pins were turned up by a local precision engineer. Quick and easy, the material specification needs to be considered. I regret I do not know what was used on mine, Jim dealt with it.

Good luck,

                    Andy


Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: Parisien on 26 February, 2015, 04:17:20 PM
Thanks again Andy, always appreciated


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Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: chriswgawne on 26 February, 2015, 05:32:12 PM
At the risk of teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, can I say that the fit of the door pins & hinges is particularly critical in any pillarless car such as your B12.
In Aurelia saloons where metalwork has been done in the sill or A post and/or B post base areas this becomes even more important.
You may already have this all under control but if it were me, I would fit all the new door rubbers etc with the doors to check door fits/closing/shuts before going too far down the painting route. I have seen several 'restored' cars where this has obviously not been done and it is almost impossible to rectify without major works.
Chris


Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: Parisien on 26 February, 2015, 07:09:57 PM
Hi Chris, all experiences and inputs appreciated, we did have that discussion, but will raise the same again to ensure all clear and what needs done to ensure success in that area


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Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: DavidLaver on 04 March, 2015, 08:17:22 AM
http://www.frost.co.uk/auto-bodywork-welding-metalworking-machine/metal-bodywork-panel-tools/door-hinge-pin-extractor.html


Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: the.cern on 04 March, 2015, 02:19:29 PM
I am not sure about the saloons, but there is no room for such a tool on a B20. Jim lost a fair bit of weight and used his whole non OED vocabulary whilst extracting mine!!!!

                         Andy


Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: Parisien on 04 March, 2015, 03:33:53 PM
Cheers for that David, my man prefers to use the local dialect Andy, sounds so much more improper!


;)


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Title: Re: Aurelia door hinges/bolts best way to go?
Post by: Niels Jonassen on 06 March, 2015, 03:51:59 PM
B20 door hinges - at least in a 3rd series car - are screwed and welded unto the pillar. I ground the welds away and unscrewed the hinges and then held them in a vice. It was fairly easy to remove the pins by means of a mandrel and a hammer.