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General => General Chat => Topic started by: lee69 on 09 September, 2007, 10:07:48 PM



Title: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: lee69 on 09 September, 2007, 10:07:48 PM
Does anyone have a period picture or pictures of the Lancia rally team's support vehicles.  I'd particularly like to get hold of some van pictures from the late 70s onwards (FIAT 242, Ducato, Iveco Daily), in any team livery, although preferably Martini.  If somebody wouldn't mind scanning something for me I'd really appreciate it.  My email is leeproudfoot(at)yahoo.co.uk.

I have a special project in mind.....

Thanks
Lee


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Harvey on 09 September, 2007, 11:17:04 PM
Purchase of a Renault Trafic followed by a request for photos of vans in Martini livery. This special project of yours...  (puts 2 and 2 together)


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Neil on 10 September, 2007, 08:14:44 AM
Lee,  I have a photo from the Fulvia 25 at Goodwood I took in 1988 with a Martini livered vehicle Team Lancia and Martini integrale (8v) in the foreground, it is lorry not van any good?  I scanned it a few months ago let me know if you would like a copy?

Neil


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: lee69 on 18 September, 2007, 09:16:56 PM
Neil

Apologies for being slack at replying.  Yes please, if I could cheekily ask to see a copy I'd appreciate it. My email is leeproudfoot(at)yahoo.co.uk.

Harvey, a Renault with Martini stripes, that would just be plain wrong.  I was thinking more of a FIAT 238 or 242 (one for Wikipedia) or a Daily.  The Trafic's going to have it's own special graphics, mostly featuring vegetables!

Lee


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: fensaddler on 20 September, 2007, 07:39:45 AM
Slightly off the wall I know, but how about:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250089344355&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Neil on 20 September, 2007, 08:10:41 AM
Lee, 2 photos sent from the Fulvia 25 event at Goodwood in 1988.

Neil


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Dilambdaman on 20 September, 2007, 02:00:38 PM
Not sure whether he still has it and its probably a bit too old for your requirements but Richard Thorne Classic Cars had the Lancia Alperton Appia parts van for sale a year or two ago.

Robin.


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: lee69 on 20 September, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Robin - I know the one you mean, I was always tempted!


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Dilambdaman on 20 September, 2007, 10:03:48 PM
Robin - I know the one you mean, I was always tempted!

Yep, I wanted it as an advertising vehicle for my business but it needed a fair amount of work and was at the time a bit pricey.

Robin.


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: donw on 21 September, 2007, 01:12:31 PM
Robin

As a past owner of the Jolly van, in which I moved an enormous amount of stuff up from London, I can say it was a great vehicle.  Appia engine with when I had it a 5 speed box, axles etc. much heftier possibly Aurelia.  The only problem was it climbed hills extremely slowly when loaded, empty it cruised happily at 55/60. The only problem was its Lancia service livery I kept getting asked where I had my Lancia service garage!  I sold it for less than £500 in about 1983.

Don


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: fay66 on 28 September, 2007, 12:00:14 PM
How about this super Jolly from Holland ;D
Looks like it would fit the bill.

not trying to advertise for Martin Willems but the site is well worth a visit.
Brian
8227 8)
   
   http://www.martinwillems.nl/frames/frame_lancia.htmladvertentie Details       
   
   
Catagorie   Auto's - Lancia   
Type   Super jolly   
Aangemaakt   02/12/06   
Bouwjaar / Build   1970   
Cylinderaantal / Cylinders   4   
Brandstof / Fuel   Benzine   
Cylinderinhoud / Liter   1500 cc   
Deuren / Doors   2   
Kleur / Color   rood   
Klasse / Class   Station   
Km /Km       
Extra Info   Uit italie geimporteerde pick-up, gebruikt tot 3 jaar terug als glaszetterswagen.
Om te bouwen tot klassieke autotransporter om bv een fulvia HF naar de rally te brengen of een abarth naar het circuit.
Ook te gebruiken voor andere reclamedoeleinden.
Moet opgeknapt worden.Auto is zeer gaaf.   
Prijs / Price   €5500.-   
   Rough translation reads.

From italie geimporteerde pick-up, uses up to 3 years as glaszetterswagen. To build to traditional autotransporter to bring HF e.g. fulvia to the rally or abarth to the circuit. Also to use for other publicity aims. Must be tidied up car is very gaaf. Price/Price?5500
   



Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Scarpia on 28 September, 2007, 12:32:39 PM
I think the advert is rather ambitious. For advertising perhaps but to carry another vehicle?. I wouldn't underestimate what "om te bouwen" means in this case. In reality the "conversion" required to carry another vehicle would be ...significant!!..I've no idea what the permitted axle loading can be but I hate to think what happens anyway when you brake with the much prized fanalone on the back! On the other hand, perhaps braking wouldn't be a problem as its unlikely to move in the first place with that sort of load....


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 30 September, 2007, 06:15:29 PM
William, I think you are being a little unfair with your comment about Super Jollys. Obviously If you had a prized car on the back it would be properly straped down, as regards the axle limit it would probably be overloaded with anything more than a Fulvia on the back, but for its time the Super Jolly was quite powerful, and could certainly tow a trailer with a car on it as can be seen in the attached photo taken when collecting my B20 from Harry Mannings in 1986.  Also don't forget the brakes were excellent, Discs all round, with twin calipers on the front, twin servos and a brake limiter valve on the back axle, plus of course front wheel drive, which other light commercial had all this in 1963!!!!!? Cheers, Ade


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Scarpia on 30 September, 2007, 06:45:19 PM
Fair play, you cannot argue with that sort of photo Ade.
I still think its entertainingly ambitious to convert this bodywork (see the one in the photo for sale) to carry a vehicle on it. But no doubt where there's a will there's a way.
(edit; i just noticed ;looking at the blur of the road the outfit is clearly moving at speed and yet apparently without driver? was nobody daring enough? ;)


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: lee69 on 30 September, 2007, 07:56:12 PM
This is turning into an interesting thread! The Martin Willems site contains some gems, what about the Beta Berlina at nearly €7000!  There's also a very tempting black Gamma Berlina, a couple of Thema SWs (always fancied one), Prisma Integrale and a couple of Autobianchi A112s.  Ade, what happened to your Super Jolly?

Lee


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 01 October, 2007, 08:36:07 PM
Lee, the Super Jolly pick-up went back to Holland, where it originally came from, it was a cut flower carrier!! The last time I saw it it was having a total rebuild, but that was a number of years ago, so I hae no idea what it is like now. I did have another Super Jolly it was originally a van that had been converted into a camper van. I sold it to Richard Thorne about 15 years ago. I think he still has it. I will try to find a photo. Ade 


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 01 October, 2007, 09:21:37 PM
Here are the photos, the first one is of the Super Jolly pick-up with the Jolly camper that was owned by Mike Phillips and the second the ex-Alperton Jolly parts van that was mentioned by Don Williamson in an earlier post with the Super Jolly Camper.


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Dilambdaman on 01 October, 2007, 10:01:26 PM
Not a Lancia but close enough?

 
Pretty sure that the car being serviced is the ex-works/ex-Jolly club 1.3HF CJW 746H I owned at one time.



Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Dilambdaman on 01 October, 2007, 10:13:39 PM
Whey hey! try and stop me now that I've mastered the technology of posting photograhs thanks to Brian Hiltron.

This one from this year's Sliding Pillar Rally in Belgium.



Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: ColinMarr on 08 October, 2007, 11:19:28 AM
Robin,

Come on then – brighten our week with more of your lovely period photos! But they don’t have to be limited to support vehicles.

Colin


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: lee69 on 31 October, 2007, 07:34:40 PM
How about this one then http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelwardphotos/1478114276/in/photostream/  ;D


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: Scarpia on 01 November, 2007, 09:16:21 AM
We used to have one of these, a "lime green" camper conversion with lift up roof.Astonishing how well it drove , soft comfortable suspension and amazing performance from the diminutive engine in the back.I think it was 903 cc but could be mistaken.Ran it hard as everyday vehicle for several years without the slightest trouble.


Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: A1.6HPE on 26 November, 2007, 09:12:35 PM
Hello Lee,
Not sure how I missed this thread as the topic is very much my kind of thing.

Some pictures - http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/leocapaldi/Martini/ (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/leocapaldi/Martini/)

and 1:32 versions - http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/leocapaldi/Slot/service1.htm (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/leocapaldi/Slot/service1.htm)



Title: Re: Lancia Rally Support vehicles
Post by: rogerelias on 26 November, 2007, 09:31:36 PM
Now we all know what you get up to. Nice collection Leo, must have taken alot of time to get all these together, :) What a load of Barlux ;) ;) Yep you sure have more toys than me.. Cheers.