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Model Technical and Interest => Aprilia, Ardennes and Ardea => Topic started by: Dave Gee on 03 December, 2014, 11:38:50 AM



Title: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 03 December, 2014, 11:38:50 AM
Retirement was looming and although there were plenty of other projects (of a far less attractive variety) such as building the barn doors etc, this little beauty arrived! However, I know nothing about Aprilias, and as you will see from the pictures, a few parts are missing. I have the engine and gear box but if anyone has any other Aprilia parts surplus to requirements, plus any technical information - handbook, parts book, etc, I would be very interested. It will probably be a year before I start work on it as the other projects have just got to get finished. However, it does mean I have a chance to really plan the restoration and acquire the appropriate bits.

The overall state of the structure is very good, especially the boot floor. Bill has already made two front floor pans for me as he was producing some for someone else.

Will come back when I have further news on her progress.

Pictures are attached below.

Best wishes

Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: davidwheeler on 03 December, 2014, 02:08:01 PM
Lovely bootlid!


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: BlueSky on 04 December, 2014, 02:37:38 AM
Dave,

For information there is a lot in this section of the forum. Also I have a small website with some Aprilia publications that might help:
http://narrywoolan.com.au/lancia-aprilia/aprilia-publications.html

Do you know what year the car is? There were numerous changes over the period of production so if you have the chassis or construction numbers we can work it out.

Noel


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: stanley sweet on 04 December, 2014, 03:08:46 PM
Never realised before how close the tyres sit to the sliding pillars.


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 17 July, 2020, 01:01:13 PM
One of the benefits of lockdown has been the opportunity to focus on unfinished projects. Most of the welding of the Aprilia is now finished, with new floor pans and sills fitted, and the bottoms of the doors have also been welded up. There is the boot lid to sort out, but that is for another day. Meanwhile, I have been stripping paint......and there is a surprising amount of it. I am still looking for running boards and no doubt there will be many other bits needed as I progress.
Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 17 July, 2020, 01:04:19 PM
Two more pictures of progress so far with the Aprilia.
Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 20 July, 2020, 07:44:10 PM
Progress made over the last few days has been in two main areas - the floor has been painted in red oxide. The next stage will be to spray it in under body sealer.
The second thing I wanted to do was to extract the suspension bushes, but it wasn't quite so simple as I initially needed to make a tool with which to do it. I will add pictures of the extraction tool. Once I had made the tool, the task was very simple.

At some point I will need to make a new loom for the car. Looking at what I have removed, which resembles a plate of spaghetti, I think it can probably be considered in three main parts - the engine bay, front to back and the wiring for the boot. Has anyone made a new loom or had experience of replacing any parts of the loom and who could give me some guidance? I want to keep it at 6v. This will be a very new type of task for me, so any advice, no matter how basic would be very welcome.
Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Raahauge on 21 July, 2020, 08:56:16 PM
Good to see progress, I am working on our Aprilia at the moment. I suggest you speak to Winston Teague for a loom, he has done at least one Aprilia and I believe could supply from the information he holds.
He is in the VSCC list or I can supply a contact number. Mike


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 30 July, 2020, 07:59:24 PM
I am looking to do a trial fit of the wings now the body is structurally sound. A lot of the tapped holes are the worse for wear. Has anyone had any success using riv nuts, or can suggest any other method?
Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: DavidLaver on 30 July, 2020, 08:50:53 PM

I think it might have been James Parry who swears blind by these to hold wings on.  I'd want "nut and bolt" but these (are said) not to come loose with vibration.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/easydrive-carbon-steel-self-drilling-screws-5-5-x-75mm-100-pack/44476?tc=FB4&ds_kid=92700048793290424&ds_rl=1249413&gclid=CjwKCAjw34n5BRA9EiwA2u9k34ertph2awUNjyWabfJjfka-tD-AQFvwHHjneWdJltM4ZQok2Mfh_BoCFeAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: frankxhv773t on 31 July, 2020, 09:44:40 AM
Of course Kevinlincs has just used rivnuts to replace the captive bolts attaching the bottom of the front wings on his Y10 thread. It's a lot more modern, maybe the Aprilia's great grandson, but it's still a small lancia.


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: SanRemo78 on 31 July, 2020, 05:30:46 PM
Do you know you can also get rivstuds? Fits the same way, just leaves a threaded head ready ro a securing nut.
Guy


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 23 August, 2020, 10:02:54 AM

I've been concentrating on door fittings/gaps recently and think I am almost there. Pictures attached. It has been very tedious but I think worthwhile. Can anyone tell me whether there should be a weather strip fitted inside, that the doors push up to?

Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: davidwheeler on 23 August, 2020, 10:44:06 PM

I've been concentrating on door fittings/gaps recently and think I am almost there. Pictures attached. It has been very tedious but I think worthwhile. Can anyone tell me whether there should be a weather strip fitted inside, that the doors push up to?

Dave

No, the weather strip is on the vertical edge of the doors only.  You should find a channel there.   I forget where I got mine from, it was many years ago.   Despite the lack of rubber, the doors do not leak.


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: tzf60 on 24 August, 2020, 01:39:48 PM
Hi Dave,
The door gaps look excellent - your perseverance paid off!
That is a very neat repair on the bottom of the rear door.
 
Regards,
Tim


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 24 August, 2020, 05:08:34 PM
You can get the door rubber trims (and all other rubber Aprilia parts) from Cicognani http://www.cicognaniguarnizioni.it/Lancia-132/aprilia-132-g00

As well as the rubber strips that go between the doors, there should be ones that go around the door, fixed adjacent to the door latches (on the door) and ones at the bottom fixed in place by aluminium trims that sit on top of the sills.

Please excuse the photo quality!


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: davidwheeler on 25 August, 2020, 10:41:54 PM
Of course there are!   I had forgotten until I went to look at my car (!)


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 18 November, 2020, 12:48:41 PM


  Made this for the bonnet yesterday


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: simonandjuliet on 18 November, 2020, 01:49:38 PM
Nice !

I know someone else who is looking for one of those - was it relatively straight forward ?


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 18 November, 2020, 05:20:08 PM
 


  No M/C from solid bar

  Could be made from tube and plate then solder

  Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: simonandjuliet on 18 November, 2020, 05:25:53 PM
I like it even more now !


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: DavidLaver on 18 November, 2020, 06:24:59 PM

Love seeing this level of dedication.


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 27 December, 2020, 12:06:30 PM


  Picture progress


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dikappa on 28 December, 2020, 07:46:26 PM
Looking good!


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 30 January, 2021, 02:09:44 PM
Work on the wings has come to a stop because of lockdown. I have therefore put the body back on the 'spit' and have treated its bottom with a Wurth underbody sealer. Finally I have built an undercarriage with some scrap box section and castors so it is moveable.

 Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 01 February, 2021, 10:03:56 AM
My current mini project is to sort out the door hinge covers. I started with two very old and rusty templates, one for the back and one for the front doors. These have been flattened out and I have taken measurements and drawn a paper template for the the rear door cover. There is a bit of luck and imagination at this point because of the state of the pattern I am using, and what may be missing. Having cut out the first one, I have bent it back into the three dimensional shape it should be. Pictures are attached. I would much appreciate some advice on whether I am going along the right lines.

 Dave


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 01 February, 2021, 02:18:46 PM
Here's a photo of the original, of course being a Lancia it is not just a flat piece of metal, around the fixing holes there is a domed profile for the countersunk screw. That will take hours of fun to replicate.  :D


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Jay on 01 February, 2021, 05:22:38 PM
Hi Dave

Very interested in this thread and project, as taken over an Aprilia project from Christo, like yours itís missing parts. I believe the spare petrol tank and dash board is on its way to you. I havenít got all the parts or body yet, but hope to pick that up nearer the end of month, then I can work out whatís missing and what spares I have.     

I been very interested in a straight on photo of all front/rear top/bottom templates as I only have one which came with the car, so will need to fabricate them all. Hopefully I should be able to calculate the size by the fixing centres.


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: SanRemo78 on 01 February, 2021, 08:13:07 PM
Here's a photo of the original, of course being a Lancia it is not just a flat piece of metal, around the fixing holes there is a domed profile for the countersunk screw. That will take hours of fun to replicate.  :D

Drill the hole you need to the right diameter in the right place. Find the screw you want to countersink and a socket that it will just fit into. Drop the screw through the plate, into the socket which is supported on a vice or another socket and then hit the screw with a hammer & punch. Neat countersink should result. Simples!
Guy


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 02 February, 2021, 09:01:01 AM
Yes, that would work for the countersunk bit, but you also have to create the dome.
Cross section as per diagram below.


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: SanRemo78 on 02 February, 2021, 09:21:38 AM
Okay, for the dome try drilling the same hole for the countersunk screw, find a socket with the right internal diameter for the dome and use a hammer to hit a ball bearing to punch the metal into submission, then flip it over to do the countersink with the smaller socket?


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Dave Gee on 02 February, 2021, 05:17:28 PM
 
 A day in the playpen 


Title: Re: A new project!
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 02 February, 2021, 05:38:29 PM
Excellent work Dave! Just make sure you don't use Phillips/Pozidriv screws anywhere on the car.  ;D