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Title: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sebastien on 29 September, 2014, 04:20:34 PM
Looks nice:

http://www.autoscout24.it/Details.aspx?id=258427800&asrc=st|as

And price seems interesting: 9'500 €, negotiable



Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Richard Fridd on 29 September, 2014, 07:06:32 PM
Looks incredible, and I like the sound of the price!. Any condition details in English?


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sebastien on 29 September, 2014, 07:34:07 PM
No!

This is one of those, where you have an italian speaking friend establishing contact per email, and you then follow up immediately on the response.
And you cannot discuss for too long, and try to find the funds, and discuss giving your car in part exchange.
You come quickly with the money, and make your decision on the spot.

Only 2 previous owners!


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: frankxhv773t on 29 September, 2014, 08:03:06 PM
If only I had the cash! I have a feeling they aren't going to stay at this sort of price for much longer.

Frank


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: stanley sweet on 30 September, 2014, 09:54:39 AM
No, you'll look back one day and weep. Anyone who has the money, room and know-how, buy one. Reminds me of coming close to buying a DB6 for around £4500 in the early 80's. There were lots around at that price and I was seriously considering it. In the end I didn't, only because I lived in east London and didn't want to keep it out on the road. So I spent the same amount on a modern. Within a few years, in the speculating boom, they had reached £150,000. In the end I began to think maybe I was hallucinating about this £4500 price tag until one day I found an old car mag I had from 1984. Had a look and there they were - Aston Martin DB6, £4500. I can barely bring myself to type it..............

Of course, I could only have driven it until something went horribly wrong and then faced with an Aston Martin bill, would probably then have sold it for a loss!


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: chriswgawne on 30 September, 2014, 11:44:16 AM
The Flaminia looks beautiful.
My 'Aston' story is that I came very very close to buying a DB4 in Shepperton from a dealer in 1971 for £895! There appeared to be nothing wrong with it but in the end I took the 'safe' option and bought a 3 year old low mileage TR5. Within 6 months it needed 2 new rear wings as they had rusted through, the head gasket went and the differential chassis mountings couldnt cope with the power so they kept on fracturing. It nearly bankrupted me so jacky had to move in to help with the mortgage on my maisonette (what are maisonettes  called now?) and the rest is history as they say.
Chris


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 30 September, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
My friend David at European Classic cars told me that he has a 2.8 Flaminia Saloon arriving this week.
http://www.europeanclassiccars.co.uk/cars_01.html
I shall go and have a look when it's there, although I really want to see the Lamborghini tractors he has for sale!


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: stanley sweet on 30 September, 2014, 02:13:34 PM
Chris - I was living in a 'maisonette' at the time I was considering an Aston. I'm sure estate agents have now thought up a more desirable word. David Honeybun at European Classic Cars is a good chap. I visited him near Swindon a couple of times for Fulvia bits before he went 'full time' so to speak. I spoke to him once about a 124 Spyder he had and he gave me a very honest appraisal of it over the phone. He seems to dig out some very nice cars.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: williamcorke on 30 September, 2014, 04:22:58 PM
Duplex is the new maisonette.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 01 October, 2014, 04:50:56 PM
Some photos of the 2.8 saloon European Classic cars have for sale....... and one of a Lamborghini


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Parisien on 01 October, 2014, 06:01:17 PM
Very smart......would still like a good poke underneath though......:)


P


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 01 October, 2014, 06:32:07 PM
Don't worry.... I did  have a good look underneath, on a ramp......... just as good as the top.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: DavidLaver on 01 October, 2014, 07:57:48 PM

Its a fantasy - but does it even fit in a standard size garage???


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Richard Fridd on 01 October, 2014, 08:15:54 PM
Fabulous! What is the asking price?? Not 9K I assume?


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: fay66 on 02 October, 2014, 07:42:23 AM
Please Santa can I have it as an early Christmas Present, I promise I'll be a very good boy and I won't ask for anything else!

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 02 October, 2014, 08:17:21 AM
It is 4855mm long and 1750mm wide (15'11'' X 5'9'' in old money)

He didn't mention the price, but i am sure it won't be  as cheap as the one in Florence, which
looks tempting, but untill you have seen it in person you cannot tell.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Dikappa on 02 October, 2014, 06:12:17 PM
It's just soooo comforting to know that there are more people with the same disease.... (why doesn't my wife still not understand???)


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Richard Fridd on 06 October, 2014, 11:52:01 AM
Some detailed photos now at the website


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: frankxhv773t on 06 October, 2014, 12:09:46 PM
Interesting Richard.

I wonder what the button on the back of the front seat where the grab handles come together is for?

Also it doesn't seem to have the automatic wash wipe button on the wiper knob on the dash board.

Frank


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: fay66 on 06 October, 2014, 01:27:41 PM
Interesting Richard.

I wonder what the button on the back of the front seat where the grab handles come together is for?

Also it doesn't seem to have the automatic wash wipe button on the wiper knob on the dash board.

Frank

Frank looks like an ashtray pull knob to me.
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 06 October, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
It says in the text  ''there is even a button on the back of the front seats, supposedly used when the drivers attention was required.''

The price is now quoted as £14,995.

http://www.europeanclassiccars.co.uk/cars_19.html


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: peteracs on 06 October, 2014, 04:23:06 PM
It says in the text  ''there is even a button on the back of the front seats, supposedly used when the drivers attention was required.''

The price is now quoted as £14,995.

http://www.europeanclassiccars.co.uk/cars_19.html

And I was going to say something silly like 'Used to order a G&T' so not so far off.......

That is a whole lot of car for the money.

Peter


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: DavidLaver on 06 October, 2014, 05:01:49 PM

Quality AND quantity on that one.  What a machine...  What jumped out from the photos is how upright the screen pillar is looking in through the door, and from that how much the screen wraps round.

David


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: fay66 on 07 October, 2014, 12:12:39 AM
It says in the text  ''there is even a button on the back of the front seats, supposedly used when the drivers attention was required.''

The price is now quoted as £14,995.

http://www.europeanclassiccars.co.uk/cars_19.html

Ade,
 I still think it's an ashtray as if you look to the right of it you can see the push button to call the Pilot ::)

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 07 October, 2014, 06:03:38 PM
Brian, I think we are talking about different things, the button for the intercom is to the right of the ashtray (which has a big black knob on it, as you say) and the thing right in the centre where the two grab handles meet is a screw head!


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: fay66 on 07 October, 2014, 10:20:18 PM
Brian, I think we are talking about different things, the button for the intercom is to the right of the ashtray (which has a big black knob on it, as you say) and the thing right in the centre where the two grab handles meet is a screw head!

Don't know why we're having this discussion as w're in agreement ??? ???

Brian
8227 8),
PS.I obviously had a senior moment


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: chriswgawne on 08 October, 2014, 07:20:58 AM
I am very curious to know what a good Flaminia Berlina drives like? This one looks fabulous, seems to be in excellent condition  and it has the big engine....but what is the driving experience like?
Can anyone comment from experience of similar (before I dare to go and look at it!!).
Chris


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: williamcorke on 08 October, 2014, 08:17:09 AM
I am very curious to know what a good Flaminia Berlina drives like? This one looks fabulous, seems to be in excellent condition  and it has the big engine....but what is the driving experience like?
Can anyone comment from experience of similar (before I dare to go and look at it!!).
Chris

Some years ago (probably 1997 or thereabouts) I was driven round South London in one by Martin Buckley. This was quite a well-known car at the time, Lancia Blue, grey cloth and with an air-conditioning unit fitted below the dash.

Mr B drove it like he stole it. Using the limited grip offered by its ancient tyres he hung the tail out round lines of parked cars in a square beside Brixton Hill. When we slowed to go round the one-way system at Tulse Hill, I was able to enjoy the amazing detailing of the trim around the A pillars.

I remember thinking at the time that, if he wanted to drive like that he should have a different car. He didn't strike me as a good custodian...

Sadly, I didn't get to drive it, but as a passenger it was clear that the car could be driven in a number of different styles without breaking sweat. A lot of old Lancias are like that, I think.

This is the Buckley car, which he wrote about his current monthly mag at the time. 2.8, A/C.
(http://www.geocities.ws/jeandebarsy/Lancia_Flaminia_Berline_Buckley_01s.JPG)


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: fay66 on 08 October, 2014, 09:19:18 AM
I am very curious to know what a good Flaminia Berlina drives like? This one looks fabulous, seems to be in excellent condition  and it has the big engine....but what is the driving experience like?
Can anyone comment from experience of similar (before I dare to go and look at it!!).
Chris

Some years ago (probably 1997 or thereabouts) I was driven round South London in one by Martin Buckley. This was quite a well-known car at the time, Lancia Blue, grey cloth and with an air-conditioning unit fitted below the dash.

Mr B drove it like he stole it. Using the limited grip offered by its ancient tyres he hung the tail out round lines of parked cars in a square beside Brixton Hill. When we slowed to go round the one-way system at Tulse Hill, I was able to enjoy the amazing detailing of the trim around the A pillars.

I remember thinking at the time that, if he wanted to drive like that he should have a different car. He didn't strike me as a good custodian...

Sadly, I didn't get to drive it, but as a passenger it was clear that the car could be driven in a number of different styles without breaking sweat. A lot of old Lancias are like that, I think.

This is the Buckley car, which he wrote about his current monthly mag at the time. 2.8, A/C.
(http://www.geocities.ws/jeandebarsy/Lancia_Flaminia_Berline_Buckley_01s.JPG)
Around about then he also hustled it around Goodwood at the LMC Track Day, I'll see if I can find the photos,as I remember it was quite impressive.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Richard Fridd on 08 October, 2014, 09:50:01 AM
Looking forward to those Brian


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: DavidLaver on 08 October, 2014, 03:56:44 PM

There was a PF that used to go well at Goodwood, albeit with alarming body roll.  Who's was that car...  Simon Duval?


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: ColinMarr on 08 October, 2014, 06:00:24 PM
David, Yes, that would have been the Farina Coupe owned and driven with gusto if not abandon by Simon Duval Smith. That car was a right hand drive ex-South Africa car. I think the only photo I have of it is attached – this was at one of the Ally Pally Sunday morning gatherings in 1998 that flourished for a while. Jai Sharma is seen talking with Martin Buckley.

The seats and interior of that car were in a lovely soft tan leather, reference to which promoted Ron Barker to say that it “had been trimmed with apartheid”! A few years later Simon had great difficulty in finding a buyer for the car and it was eventually sold to someone in Scotland for about £4000.

Colin


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: DavidLaver on 08 October, 2014, 10:12:34 PM

It went well and looked fantastic inside, outside, and in every detail.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: frankxhv773t on 09 October, 2014, 07:52:43 PM
The Flaminia Berlina is reputed to have achieved the fastest recorded time over the pave' (can't put am accent on the "e") at Mira so ride is supposed to be exemplary.

Re the button on the seat back I thought the knob on the ash tray was to obvious to require distinguishing from the push button.

The A pillars are vertical and the wrap around on the windscreen is a full 90 degrees.

Frank



Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Richard Fridd on 09 October, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
Lovely and the only one present. Where is that one now?


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: frankxhv773t on 09 October, 2014, 08:41:16 PM
I think I heard it had been sold abroad.

Frank


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: frankxhv773t on 09 October, 2014, 08:54:57 PM
And one I saw at Richard Thorne's some years ago but I wasn't tempted.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 28 November, 2014, 07:23:39 PM
The 2.8 Sedan at European Classic Cars has now been sold.
http://www.europeanclassiccars.co.uk/cars_01.html


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Richard Fridd on 28 November, 2014, 08:03:55 PM
Not surpised! Looking forward to seeing it one day.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: chriswgawne on 29 November, 2014, 08:33:22 AM
Thank goodness for that! Its a lovely car. I was going to have another look at it next week when I am back in the UK for a few days as the 'itch' wouldn't quite go away. Is it staying in the UK I wonder (& hope).
Chris


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: DavidLaver on 29 November, 2014, 09:37:04 AM

Chris - maybe Santa read your list...


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: lancianut666 on 03 December, 2014, 05:58:56 PM
Can people please stop posting these gorgeous cars on here!!!! I might have to sell a kidney to get one... seriously though you will need a big garage...
Clarkey


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Parisien on 03 December, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
...........aaahhhhhh...the Wildean moment.......:)


Just give in.......;)


P


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 13 December, 2014, 06:05:54 AM
Apparently the European Classic Cars Flaminia is staying in the UK.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Richard Fridd on 02 June, 2015, 03:54:23 PM
And a red one http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C590237


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: lancialulu on 02 June, 2015, 05:00:47 PM
gone already???


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: Richard Fridd on 02 June, 2015, 06:18:25 PM
Link now modified. Not my most favourite colour though.


Title: Re: Flaminia Berlina in Firenze
Post by: frankxhv773t on 03 June, 2015, 07:19:22 PM
The whole thing has been tarted up a bit. It would be interesting to know if the seat have been re-upholstered or if those are after market seat covers. The rubbing strake down the sides is non standard and isn't to my taste though possibly practical if you were to leave it in a supermarket car park. I notice too that the centre of the steering wheel boss (the courtesy flasher button) has had a red outline painted on. I have a feeling the internal window surrounds are supposed to be body colour but I would be strongly tempted to change them to black. The door cappings are pressed aluminium but the front screen internal surround pieces are fiberglass.