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Model Technical and Interest => Beta and Montecarlo => Topic started by: neil-yaj396 on 06 October, 2013, 02:29:41 PM



Title: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 06 October, 2013, 02:29:41 PM
I am now the owner of around 30% of the UK’s road worthy 1300 Beta Coupes (and 100% of the Lancia Blue ones???).

I bought the post facelift Coupe from a Lancia enthusiast in Sheffield this week (he has a nice blue Series III Appia saloon - tried to talk him into joining up!).

Unfortunately, after a faultless thirty mile cruise up the motorway, the car developed the dreaded Beta hesitancy under load syndrome, to the point where I had to stop on the outskirts of Bradford.  A’ switch off and switch on again’ restored a semblance of drivability and got me home (and avoided the dreaded “Can’t find anything wrong with this mate!” from the AA man!), but that annoying ‘fluffyness’ remained and is even worse today.

I changed a rather ratty rotor arm and cleaned up as many connections as I could find this morning. This has improved the idle, but things are pretty poor once you set off and put the engine under load.

The car came with quite a lot of history, including notes from it’s original owner (Bernard Power 1979 – 2008; LMC member 6624). Turns out various mechanics have been mucking about with the carburettor and ignition for the last twenty years, with at best, it appears, only temporary success.

My money is on the vacuum advance and/or the ignition unit itself, as the ‘off and on’ business seems to eliminate the carb to me? Though the last mechanics bill is for freeing up the secondary choke flap.

The ignition unit is the Marelli type that sits under the coil, which I haven’t seen before. Any other suggestions are welcome of course.

Unfortunately this has taken a bit of the shine off my latest acquisition!

The car's history has inspired me to write an article for VL however. Some of Mr. Power's notes to his mechanics/restorers are quite poignant, it was obviously a very precious car to him, and for some reason it appears that when he finally parted with it, he retained it's original registration number.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: Angle Grinder on 07 October, 2013, 08:14:31 PM
Looks nice. I know of someone up here who scraped a T reg 1300 coupe just 4 years ago because he needed space in his garage to set up a workshop. The only fault with the car was some easily repairable rust in the front turret area. Cosmetically it was rust free and had only 54K miles on it. I nearly cried when he told me he'd sent it to the scrap man. I last saw it wobbling on top of a heap of other bland moderns.

Not that I really know Beta coupes, but I had a Prisma 1600 with hesistance under load and it was eventually solved by replacing the small diaphragm and plunger that actuated the accelerator pump in the carb. However, I also had bad idle problems as a symptom with this too and I'm not sure if that is your issue too.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 08 October, 2013, 05:55:25 AM
Shame about the 1300. I think there are only six or so left. My older one may be the last pre-facelift.

It''s such a sweet engine and I prefer the understated steel wheels, but in this country it served little purpose as the 1600 delivers better overall performance and uses less fuel.

In Italy they sold lots because of road tax restrictions.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 08 February, 2014, 01:54:43 PM
My garage was built in 2007 as part of the extension to our house. For the first time since then it is housing a Lancia, rather than a selection of household junk (and to be fair my bikes and snowboards).


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 08 February, 2014, 02:12:55 PM
I eventually fixed the poor running by taking off the carb, removing the jets and an blowing through every passageway (of which there are many) with an airline. A new vacuum advance unit, plugs and fuel filters had also helped, but didn't really cure it.

Strangely, when the carb was re-fitted the car would not rev at all over 3000 revs. I left the car alone for a week in abject frustration (it was stuck in the garage at work) and only returned to restart it to avoid the battery going flat. The car has run perfectly since then!

I can only assume that I'd blow some gunk even deeper into the fast running jet channels, but that the modern Redex rich petrol dissolved this in the intervening week?


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 14 April, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
Goodbye to the pre-facelift Coupe after seven years sterling service. Sold to a genuine enthusiast for £1450 via ebay. More than I expected, but probably a lot less than it will be worth in the future if it gets a good restoration. 173 watchers and 2500 hits so it generated lots of interest.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: Parisien on 14 April, 2014, 08:07:45 PM
Great to hear.......was tempted myself, but I got one of those stern looks from her indoors


P


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: Derek Moore on 15 April, 2014, 12:35:49 PM
Haha, same here. Why do they not understand??


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: lancialulu on 15 April, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Excellent Neil

I hope you shoved a LMC application form into his hand as well as a receipt!!!???

Tim


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 15 April, 2014, 07:55:15 PM
Excellent Neil

I hope you shoved a LMC application form into his hand as well as a receipt!!!???

Tim

Yes, he asked me to send a link to the website with the inner wing/sill photos that I need to email.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: Dilambdaman on 15 April, 2014, 08:52:38 PM
Haha, same here. Why do they not understand??

The problem is, they understand all too well! ;D

Robin.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 11 May, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
Looks like it's back on eBay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Beta-Coupe-MOT-and-Tax-/261476601114?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1384d1a

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: lancialulu on 11 May, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
Also plagerist ......


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 11 May, 2014, 08:04:00 PM
Yes, he text me yesterday to say he was moving it on for 'financial' reasons. Don't think he's after a fast buck because he could have had it for £500 less from either this Forum or Betaboyz. Odd, yes, he has 'cut & paste' my add!

Ironically Andy Collin's old Series1 saloon is next to it on eBay.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 13 May, 2014, 07:28:09 PM
Auction ended early so he must have taken an offer. Anyone on here?


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 29 May, 2014, 03:15:14 PM
The new owner of YAJ, Gerard, has joined the Club. Several years owning a Spider without joining up, but the 1300 Coupe has worked it's magic!


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 28 June, 2014, 09:22:01 AM
The 'new' 1300 was pressed into service as Elena's 'Prom Car'. Didn't get a picture, but it looked so tasteful driving up to the venue drop off compared to the bright yellow Ferrari and a Bentley Continental behind it. The 1977 Rolls Royce behind that was a nice touch though.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 12 July, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
There was a brown 1300 Coupe at the National Weekend (YEG738T - Series 2 facelift). Unfortunately I didn't go because of the Tour de France. However I now seem to be getting close to identifying all the working 1300 Coupes in the UK. 'My' two (YAJ & FNC), a metallic blue model (also facelift) owned by a poster on the Betaboyz Forum (W reg??), plus the one above.

Also the Betaboyz Forum may have identified the 'gold' 1300 seen in Manchester by Paul Greenway earlier this year. It is actually a Morocco Beige pre-facelift model registered DOO 43T and confirmed as taxed and tested.

So that's five, and my theory of YAJ being the last pre-facelift on the road disproved.

If the owners of DOO and YEG are on here it would be great to hear from you?


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 06 September, 2014, 08:33:03 AM
Most years since 1993 I have gone away camping with a group of friends in July or August. Originally we all went in classic cars, originally British ones (prior to my Lancia days; MG Midget, Frogeye Sprite, Mini). As the children came along the classics dwindled away, with my Beta being pretty much the last classic standing!

However things looked up a bit this year, with the appearance of Neil's V6 Corsair convertible. It was it's first proper run post restoration, from Sussex to Cambridgeshire, and he had some fuel vaporisation issues until he disconnected the mechanical pump, bypassing a copper feed pipe bolted to the cylinder head that seemed to serve no purpose other than boiling up the fuel. 


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 01 October, 2014, 03:30:03 PM
A years ownership of FNC effectively finished last night when I collected Elena from her dance class in it. SORN from midnight. Good to check out on an excellent weekend trip (apart from the M1 traffic) to Betameeta and the LMC Committee meeting, clocking up just under 400 trouble free miles.

Must now write up my winter 'to do' list.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 07 November, 2014, 01:19:50 PM
Another one surfaces.... Needs work though, no connection to the seller.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-B-1300-1981-Non-runner-Project-/390967180555?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item5b0775bd0b

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: the.cern on 07 November, 2014, 05:08:02 PM
Another one surfaces.... Needs work though, no connection to the seller.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-B-1300-1981-Non-runner-Project-/390967180555?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item5b0775bd0b

Guy

... and the engine bay and the underside ....??


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: DavidLaver on 07 November, 2014, 05:16:23 PM

Andy,

Just look away...

I only hope you're not passing Wolverhampton on a Southend to Wales run anytime soon.

David


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: peteracs on 07 November, 2014, 08:48:27 PM
Another one surfaces.... Needs work though, no connection to the seller.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-B-1300-1981-Non-runner-Project-/390967180555?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item5b0775bd0b

Guy

... and the engine bay and the underside ....??

I guess you have to use your imagination, never ceases to amaze me the lack of interest/care that folk have when putting items on Ebay, little wonder the prices obtained can be silly low.

Peter


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: the.cern on 07 November, 2014, 09:23:24 PM

Andy,

Just look away...

I only hope you're not passing Wolverhampton on a Southend to Wales run anytime soon.

David

I am just hoping that the Fulvia 2C quickly gets snapped up. That truly is temptation.

                      Andy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 09 November, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
Interesting to see another 1300 re-surface. Talking of lack of care I don't think he even knows that it's a Beta, referring to it only as a 'B'! Presumably from the boot badge. Consequently it doesn't appear on a search under Beta. He's still got 9 bids even so. 


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 01 March, 2015, 05:05:42 PM
Here's a red one for a change......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/dal536t-lancia-beta-coupe-1-3-project-/201298035860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ede4c4494

No connection to the seller.

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 16 June, 2015, 06:23:30 AM
I finally got round to fitting my NS window winder and mirror. Unfortunately I couldn't quite finish the job, as the previous owner had left off the bolts that connect the glass to the winder carriage. The glass was held up with a long bolt through an aperture in the door to one of the carrier bolt holes. A handy tip if you end up with a winding mechanism broken in a not fully raised position.

I have a pair of bolts from my scrapped door, but they are over at my Mothers, so I'll have to wait until the weekend to finish the job.

The mirror has been a bit of a bugbear with this car, as on my Police driving courses the instructors hammered checking the NS mirror for cyclists and motorbikes, especially when exiting a roundabout at speed. They'd check that you were doing this every time, so for the last 18 months I've found my self constantly glimpsing at nothing!


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: DavidLaver on 16 June, 2015, 11:39:02 AM

Police driving course?  It seems such an obvious question, but is that because you're in the police, and a driver?

How long was the course?  Are there various levels you work through?  Do I remember correctly that there used to be "the book" that police would drive to?  Still the case?

The only police driver I could name was John Gott who rallied big Healeys on Liege Rome Liege and similar.  I thought Ant Anstead from 'for the love of cars' was a police driver but I'm not 100pct sure that was his role.

David


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: stanley sweet on 18 June, 2015, 09:53:28 AM
I've been a graphic designer since completing a 3 year course in 1976. However, there was a point in the early 90's when i found myself made redundant and it was when computers were becoming established in design of which I didn't have any experience. Hmmmm, what to do? Without computer experience nobody wanted to know. So for a couple of years I became a driving instructor. Apart from written exams there is an advanced driving test, then a teaching exam where an examiner tries all sorts of tricks. So the 'lifesaver' looks in the mirrors brings it all back. The rule was always to check the mirrors before you either change speed or direction. We were taught by an ex-police instructor on the driving side of things. He told us we would be taught to police standards with the exception of pursuit driving! In the driving test which was one hour long, I think you were allowed 3 minor mistakes only. I failed my first one because I missed one look in the mirror (can't remember the other two). I remember being a bit annoyed because I remember I had looked, but maybe just before or after he checked. It was well worth it though (passed the next time) and I am a better driver now than before. For instance it's amazing in how short a distance you can stop a car in an emergency if you only dip the clutch in the last few nanoseconds. Then compare the length if you dip it earlier. After a couple of years, with the help of a friend and a bit of bluffing I was back in design and been stuck in front of a computer ever since.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 19 June, 2015, 06:30:06 AM

Police driving course?  It seems such an obvious question, but is that because you're in the police, and a driver?

How long was the course?  Are there various levels you work through?  Do I remember correctly that there used to be "the book" that police would drive to?  Still the case?

The only police driver I could name was John Gott who rallied big Healeys on Liege Rome Liege and similar.  I thought Ant Anstead from 'for the love of cars' was a police driver but I'm not 100pct sure that was his role.

David

I work in what is now the Criminal Investigation Directorate of HMRC. I was trained as a surveillance driver, which entailed in my case a three week basic driving course then a four week advanced course (the 'full monty' blues & twos 145 mph on the A1!). I then did a two week refresher course in 2013.

The funniest tale was on the M1 in Silverstone week. We got caught in the race traffic and the instructor didn't like being late home. He put the blues on and told me to work my way through the traffic then make progress. As I got to the front of the jam an Aston Martin broke free about five cars in front of me. I accelerated after him but he was still losing me at 130 mph. Then he must have seen my lights and coasted onto the hard shoulder awaiting the seemingly inevitable loss of his licence.

We drove past with the instructor wagging his finger at him. What relief he must have felt!


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: peteracs on 19 June, 2015, 06:43:08 AM
HMRC eh, damn and I used to like you too.......!

See you tomorrow at Betameeta, hope the weather is good.

Peter


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: stanley sweet on 19 June, 2015, 09:03:41 AM
I bet every time the Aston driver has told that story down the pub his mates have rolled their eyes and thought 'Yeah, right. The police are just going to wag their finger when you were doing 130!"


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 19 June, 2015, 07:08:19 PM
I bet every time the Aston driver has told that story down the pub his mates have rolled their eyes and thought 'Yeah, right. The police are just going to wag their finger when you were doing 130!"

He was doing well more than 130, but the instructors, although they have the same exemptions under the Road Traffic Act as Police Officers, they are civilians and don't have any other Police powers, so are unable to pull drivers over.

As you say, the Aston driver must get plenty of "yes, like that really happened..." reactions, which in a way, makes it funnier still.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: DavidLaver on 19 June, 2015, 07:26:37 PM

Not at that speed - but I had a similar moment on the A25 thinking it was me they wanted only for them to overtake and disappear on more important business.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: stanley sweet on 22 June, 2015, 09:08:41 AM
In a way, it's more impressive policing to wag a finger than to pull him over. Having broken out into a cold sweat, seen your licence taken away and possibly your job in your imagination, the thought that you will never be that lucky again should stop most people from repeating the offence.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 22 June, 2015, 08:22:47 PM
HMRC and I scrapped a 1300 coupe once.

Do I resign my membership now or will the boyz be round?


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 25 June, 2015, 06:01:32 AM
HMRC and I scrapped a 1300 coupe once.

Do I resign my membership now or will the boyz be round?

No, if the 'boyz' went round to everyone who'd scrapped a Beta, it would be a full time job!


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 26 June, 2015, 06:05:43 AM
The 1300 was of course at the superb 2015 Betameeta:


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 26 June, 2015, 06:07:20 AM
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Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 06 September, 2015, 01:38:17 PM
Though not entirely obvious from this photo my Coupe had it's new bonnet and boot lid painted and fitted this week. Have spent all morning cleaning, fettling and replacing trim. Hopefully now ready for the LMC stand at Manchester Classic car Show.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: lancialulu on 06 September, 2015, 04:12:38 PM
Looks nice!


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: DavidLaver on 06 September, 2015, 05:18:39 PM

Looks STUNNING.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: DavidLaver on 06 September, 2015, 05:19:12 PM

I love those steel wheels and little hub caps.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 06 September, 2015, 05:56:06 PM
Looking forward to seeing it at the show. I'll be creeping in on the Saturday morning! Can't make the Friday set up due to work commitments..

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 07 September, 2015, 06:21:39 AM

I love those steel wheels and little hub caps.

I'm often asked why I don't change them for the standard Cromadora alloys, but to me they are one of the attractions of the 1300. Subtly understated!


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 07 September, 2015, 10:05:05 AM
Absolutely! Any old Beta can have the standard alloys. Those steel wheels are part of the uniqueness of having a 1300.

Of course the standard alloys aren't all Cromadoras. Many of them are FPS which I have heard are inferior. Anyone able to add more detail?

Frank


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: JohnMillham on 07 September, 2015, 11:47:59 AM
Absolutely! Any old Beta can have the standard alloys. Those steel wheels are part of the uniqueness of having a 1300.

Of course the standard alloys aren't all Cromadoras. Many of them are FPS which I have heard are inferior. Anyone able to add more detail?

Frank
I have a few new hubcaps like those, and a few slightly used if anyone needs them. Please pm me if so. Regards, John


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 12 November, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
What has happened to this poor Beta this year? Looks like it needs rescuing before Winter kills it once and forever!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Beta-Coupe-1300-Twincam-1978-Project-/121813390651?hash=item1c5ca4d53b:g:DakAAOSwZVhWRL6t

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 13 November, 2015, 04:50:13 PM
Yes, that's my old car, YAJ. The current owner called me last night to see if I wanted to buy it (no), and said it was on ebay. I searched but couldn't find it, clearly because the listing had finished.

Looks like he got his £500 for it. Hopefully not a whim buyer this time and someone who will get stuck in and restore it. It needs someone like Kevin on here who is tearing down that Evo.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: DavidLaver on 13 November, 2015, 08:13:05 PM
http://autobrown stuffe.com/topic/20190-lancia-beta-coupe-1300-twincam-let-the-work-begin/

I've only skimmed it so far.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 13 November, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
http://autobrown stuffe.com/topic/20190-lancia-beta-coupe-1300-twincam-let-the-work-begin/?p=740530

I think this might work better.

He seems to be the second person who didn't really know what they were letting themselves in for and doesn't have the expertise and passion to make progress. I suspect it is only worthwhile as a labour of love by someone with an auto-masochistic streak.

Frank T


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: DavidLaver on 13 November, 2015, 10:39:10 PM
"autobrown stuffe" is the translation for a-u-t-o-s-h-i-t-e

The ebay link has a link to that forum.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: the.cern on 13 November, 2015, 11:04:01 PM
Thank you for the translation David.

I got onto the site, heck that is a lot of work. Sills both sides, the whole rear valance and at least one of the A pillars requiring the windscreen to come out!!!!

Good luck someone!!!!

                               Andy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 14 November, 2015, 08:54:25 AM
Oh dear, it has deteriorated since I let it go 18 months ago. Keeping it in a field with the window open can't have helped! I once had to take off the door trim on a campsite to get the drivers window back up, so after that I never lowered it more than two thirds of the way down. Although the photos seem to show the passenger window down.

The distributor is a funny one. In seven years I never touched the ignition, one of the reasons being that the distributor cap screw was hard up against the cam box. The answer was to slacken off the distributor and rotate it back round, but as the timing was spot on I was shy of doing that and it ran fine for all those years.

The off side A post and sill were always going to be the big challenge. The latter was bodged by the local garage, who also passed the final MOT in October 2013, leading to a winter of use that the car could have well done without I guess.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 21 November, 2015, 02:07:12 PM
Thank you for the translation David.

I got onto the site, heck that is a lot of work. Sills both sides, the whole rear valance and at least one of the A pillars requiring the windscreen to come out!!!!

Good luck someone!!!!

                               Andy

Just to show that the NS sill was done properly!


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 04 December, 2015, 08:30:38 PM
And another comes out of the woodwork. Posted on ebay yesterday.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Cars-Motorcycles-Vehicles-/9800/i.html?_sop=10&_from=R40&_nkw=lancia&rt=nc



Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 04 December, 2015, 11:18:06 PM
It's YAJ396T again. Doesn't look good, probably reached the end now....

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 05 December, 2015, 01:01:12 AM
So is this the best documented slow death of a Lancia in history?

Frank T


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 06 December, 2015, 08:33:31 AM
So is this the best documented slow death of a Lancia in history?

Frank T

Certainly seems that way. The latest seller is some sort of dealer. It looks like he bought it from the chap in Skipton thinking there was some quick money to be made. It appears not though; current bid £205.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 06 December, 2015, 10:43:36 AM
1979 1.3 Coupe

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Beta-coupe-1-3-/131669017353?hash=item1ea815c309:i:131669017353

Shame there's no pictures but it's not YAJ396T.....

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 06 December, 2015, 01:12:16 PM
How does he expect to sell it without a single photo? A pity really, it would be nice to get the details of another one.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: peteracs on 06 December, 2015, 01:14:04 PM
I have asked for photos, will see what comes back, but from brief description sounds as bad as your old one Neil.... If not worse.

Peter


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 06 December, 2015, 05:07:40 PM
I wonder if no photos keeps chancers away, or the other way round. At least in the absence of pictures you can't convince yourself it's an easy restoration. You would have to go and see it, which always makes sense.

Frank T


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 01 January, 2016, 05:14:11 PM
Here's a new source of hopeless cases...

http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/611442776/1978-lancia-beta-1300-coupe.html

Yes it's YAJ again. Now offered at £500 which might be getting down closer to the value of useable parts perhaps?

Frank T


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: Parisien on 01 January, 2016, 05:33:59 PM
More readable advert here Frank

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/detail/motors/classic-cars/lancia/beta/157346

P


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 02 January, 2016, 08:12:28 AM
This is odd, it seems to be back with the chap who called me, not the guy who had it on ebay most recently. Or are we just seeing old adds??


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 02 January, 2016, 01:24:53 PM
Indeed so Frank. I was really the alternative source of Lancia adverts that I thought of interest morer than the masochistic opportunity it offered.

Frank T


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 25 March, 2016, 11:08:17 AM
Through the MOT today with a couple of advisories. So tax next week and I'm off!

A relief after last years surprise hole in the wheel arch. Will celebrate by swapping in my LMC 2016 badge.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 03 July, 2016, 05:00:40 PM
The 1300 Coupe enjoyed it's second outing as a Prom car. Unlike last time though there was no queue of exotic cars pulling up to the venue. Shame.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 08 September, 2016, 05:43:36 AM
Did my annual camping trip in the Coupe last week. To Ledbury and back, so a 500 mile plus round trip including a drive down to the Forest of Dean. Sadly the car ran poorly on the run down, including some alarming 'jolts' at 70 on the motorway, and to add insult to injury another radiator fan thermostat failed. At least this was in the 'on' mode again though.

I was a bit down in the mouth about it all, but then the car ran like a dream on the trip home! What can you do! No doubt another bit of microscopic crap in the carb jets that eventually dislodged itself.

Just the Otley Vintage Transport Fair next week then SORN is approaching.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: fay66 on 08 September, 2016, 08:59:20 PM
Neil,
While you were in the Forest you should have looked in on John Brain at Bob Brain Developments, john has just got his Fulvia on the road after a very long time as a Rallye car.
He'd have been able to help with your problem as well!
Love that part of the Country, and we used to live at Symonds Yat.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 13 December, 2016, 01:57:50 PM
Probably rarer now than the 1300 Coupe?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Beta-1300-TC-/162310742296?hash=item25ca796118:g:uRAAAOSw-0xYRs7z

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 14 December, 2016, 06:56:32 AM
Probably rarer now than the 1300 Coupe?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Beta-1300-TC-/162310742296?hash=item25ca796118:g:uRAAAOSw-0xYRs7z

Guy

I think we are pretty much 50/50 on 1300 Coupes and Saloons. This one drew some comments on the Betaboyz Forum re the ambitious price! Though as Alan Cooper always points out, a similar Mk2 Escort in this condition would probably be £10K.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 30 October, 2017, 08:15:26 AM
The Coupe's most eventful year effectively came to an end yesterday when I filled out the SORN. 4100 miles since the MOT in March, 8% of the 38 years worth of total milage, including it's trip to Italy.

I could have done more, but I used the Ypsilon for GNW and National Weekend so as not to 'go mad'.

Rounded off the year on Saturday with a quick ride up to the Dales and a visit to Billy Bob's Diner.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 16 March, 2018, 09:30:30 PM
Here's another one...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LANCIA-BETA-COUPE-1300-Classic/332588129691?hash=item4d6fcc1d9b:g:qMsAAOSwho1aq8zs

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: chriswgawne on 17 March, 2018, 05:07:14 AM
Isle of Man car. V salty damp air. Beware.
Chris


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: DavidLaver on 17 March, 2018, 12:55:00 PM

Check ferry price as well...


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: chriswgawne on 17 March, 2018, 04:18:07 PM
My fathers family are Manx from Derbyhaven near Castletown ....hence the weird surname - and the best made cars rust like nobody's business on the Island.
Chris


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: SanRemo78 on 06 November, 2018, 08:33:17 PM
YAJ396T looking pretty sad these days...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Beta-coupe-1300-1978-Project-Spares-Repairs/113354336207?hash=item1a6471e7cf:g:e20AAOSwqM9b1fOX:rk:1:pf:0

Guy


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 08 November, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
YAJ396T looking pretty sad these days...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Beta-coupe-1300-1978-Project-Spares-Repairs/113354336207?hash=item1a6471e7cf:g:e20AAOSwqM9b1fOX:rk:1:pf:0

Guy

Yes, very sad. I spotted it and posted on Betaboyz. I could have used that stainless exhaust at MOT time this year.....


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 02 June, 2019, 12:38:57 PM
Last of my late father in law's F103 Champion oil filters used with yesterdays oil change. He bought them for his Saab 900s, and they got me out of a real hole once. I bought a pair of filters from ebay and changed the oil on my old 1300 before a run to my first LMC Committee meeting. The ebay filter didn't fit (I still have them for some reason...). That was when I found that Tony's old 103s fitted the Beta. I wasn't sure why I'd even kept them, sentiment I guess.


Title: Re: 1300 Coupes
Post by: frankxhv773t on 02 June, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
I have stacks of bits that someone, somewhere, someday is going to need. If nobody ever kept stuff there would be no parts to keep us running.