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Title: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: HPEHF on 24 April, 2012, 12:55:09 PM
RM Auctions are holding a 2 day auction in Monaco on the 11-12 May.

Friday is reserved for Motorcycle which include a private collection of Ducati's and 2 Ducati MotoGP bikes raced by Casey Stoner and Valentino Rossi.

Saturday is for cars which there are 7 Lancias listed:-

1973 Fulvia Group 4 ex works rally car
1949 Aprilia 2nd Series
1955 Aurelia B24 Spider America
1976 Stratos Stradale
1954 Aurelia B20 4th Series
1995 Hyena
1964 Sport Prototipo Zagato (flavia) ex works racing car

Regards
Simon Davis


Title: Re: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: sparehead3 on 24 April, 2012, 09:01:39 PM
So, what you bidding on Simon or are you keeping your cards close to your chest ? ;)

Stratos for me I think ....


Title: Re: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: Jai Sharma on 24 April, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
None, except the Aprilia, are estimated below Euros 100k. Some are offered without reserve, so a possible bargain available in case what I presume is the Monte Carlo Grand Prix weekend is completely bereft of car fans.......


Title: Re: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: lancialulu on 24 April, 2012, 10:41:41 PM
None, except the Aprilia, are estimated below Euros 100k. Some are offered without reserve, so a possible bargain available in case what I presume is the Monte Carlo Grand Prix weekend is completely bereft of car fans.......

its the monaco historic... were going but not bidding..... we are fans.   


Title: Re: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: Sebastien on 14 May, 2012, 02:36:33 PM
The results (taken from the RM website):
Aprilia: 31.360 EUR
B24 spider: 425.600 EUR
B20: 78.400 EUR
Flavia Zagato prototype: 190.400 EUR (even for a works racing car, this is a lot! However there is only one)
Stratos: 299.600 EUR
Hyena: 89.600 EUR
Fulvia HF: N.S. (has been at auction a few times over the last years, always with bigger estimate, always N.S.!)


Title: Re: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: Jai Sharma on 14 May, 2012, 06:44:09 PM
Wow was that a particularly dear stratos?


Title: Re: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: lancialulu on 14 May, 2012, 10:03:06 PM
The Heyna looked a bit of a steel though!


Title: Re: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: chriswgawne on 15 May, 2012, 07:09:14 AM
I though the accuracy of the RM pre-auction estimates was especially interesting. What was the buyers premium I wonder to be added to the bid prices?


Title: Re: RM Auctions - Monaco 12 May
Post by: Sebastien on 15 May, 2012, 07:58:17 AM
Chris,
yes, the accuracy of estimates make you wonder, especially in the case of the Flavia Zagato, where no history about previous sales exist.
The prices I put above are including commission and taxes.
For comparison the Flavia Zagato was bid to 170.000 EUR, the B20 to 70.000 and the B24 spider to 380.000 EUR.
So the auction houses earn some serious money (and they also I think take a commission from the seller!)

Also interesting is that at the Bonhams sale 3 out of 4 Lancias did not sell (a Flaminia Sport, a Fulvia HF, also alleged to be a works car, and a Stratos Group 4 replica) The only Lancia that sold was an Integrale, for 10.350 EUR.

And finally there also was a Coys auction sale in Monaco that week-end, with 3 Lancias, an Aurelia convertibile, a Flaminia Coupe 2.8 and a Fulvia Coupe series III. Of that sale no results have been published (yet).