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Title: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 14 December, 2011, 05:06:17 PM
My old Fulvia 1600HF has been entered into next year's Monte by its new owner, Mr A. McAlpine.  Expect to see it in new livery.

http://www.acm.mc/rmch/2012/docs/liste_engages__ordre_alpha__v01-12-11_2012.pdf

Note a certain Mr Sandro Munari is also participating in a Fanalone.


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: peterbaker on 14 December, 2011, 06:10:10 PM
You omitted to mention that among the 306 cars on the entry list is one Sandro Munari, starting from Italy in a Lancia Fulvia 1.6HF!


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 14 December, 2011, 08:19:52 PM
You omitted to note my lack of said omission ; )


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: DavidLaver on 14 December, 2011, 08:23:06 PM

Is that OWE 250K ?

David


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: peterbaker on 14 December, 2011, 08:23:51 PM
Not sure I understand.


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 14 December, 2011, 09:23:17 PM
Yes it is OWE 250K

(Peter, sorry for being obtuse - I mentioned Munari in my first post)


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: peterbaker on 14 December, 2011, 10:51:33 PM
My fault


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: lancialulu on 15 December, 2011, 07:10:12 AM

Is that OWE 250K ?

David

OWE300K afterwards  ;D

Tim


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 15 December, 2011, 09:21:35 AM
And the rest...apparently the car has had a full engine rebuild, a lot of body work, new paint job, uprated safety equipment, put back to standard interior trim and carbs etc etc etc.  Should be a fine car when done though - apparently it will be a close thing to get it to the start with papers on time.  Fingers crossed. 


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: lancialulu on 30 January, 2012, 12:16:36 PM
Any more on Munari and the Lancia museum fanalone he is driving this week???

Tim


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 30 January, 2012, 03:09:02 PM
Jings, he has converted my old car to LHD!



Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 30 January, 2012, 03:11:47 PM
Mmm, not sure its mine actually - he did say he was going to convert it to a series 1 front end (not sure why) but the licence plate suggests its a different car altogether.


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: Neil on 30 January, 2012, 03:12:09 PM
Looks like S1 front too?


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 30 January, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
He mentioned to me he was going to change the front end but why exactly I am not sure given that a bunch of 1600HFs (not Fanalones) entered the rally last year - maybe it will help eligibility for other events.  He may have scrapped the body altogether as after years of being a race car he said it wasnt the best once the paint was off....


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 30 January, 2012, 03:24:30 PM
Here's a nice photo of it - I couldnt tell you if its my old car or not but it looks the business!


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: lancialulu on 30 January, 2012, 07:29:39 PM
Did you sell OWE to a dutch guy??

It looks track oriented rather than rally prepared...

Tim


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 31 January, 2012, 07:34:56 AM
No it went to Andrew McAlpine.  I don't know if he scrapped the body though!


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: Scott on 31 January, 2012, 08:23:55 AM
Dutch plated Fulvia DR-69-91 was advertised for sale in 1999 where it was stated to be a 1965 1st Series Fulvia ('production number 2015') originally from Pisa.


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 31 January, 2012, 10:13:28 AM
I have a feeling he took the mechanicals (engine, box, steering) from my car and transplanted them into that car.   Shame OWE 250k didnt survive if thats the case but for hard competition use the body was apparently not serviceable any more...


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: Scott on 31 January, 2012, 11:04:13 AM
Well the good news is that OWE 250K still exists in the latest car list in the Lancia Motor Club Membership list and the member is not Andrew McAlpine as mentioned in your earlier post! So hopefully OWE 250K is still doing sterling service for someone else and wasn't viciously cannibalised!


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 31 January, 2012, 11:29:04 AM
I believe that OWE 250k is still down as mine (initials JS) in the LMC register - I have sent in the amended form showing the car that I now own. 


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: lancialulu on 31 January, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
I have a feeling he took the mechanicals (engine, box, steering) from my car and transplanted them into that car.   Shame OWE 250k didnt survive if thats the case but for hard competition use the body was apparently not serviceable any more...

I find that hard to believe given the price he must have paid for OWE. Maybe there was money in the plate??!!

Tim


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 31 January, 2012, 01:20:48 PM
I know, but thats what he was planning.  The car as I had it had been a racer for a number of years and the previous owners had stripped it back to bare metal and replaced all filler with new metal.  As such the shell was in my humble opinion, very sound and there was no rust anywhere on it.  However, once the new owner took the paint off I think he wasnt happy with the number of repairs (as opposed to the quality) and so embarked on an extensive rebuild which included the proposed S1 front end swap.  I know he was contemplating binning the shell completely and cannibalising the car for its HF parts and he may well have done that.  A shame, but his perogative I guess.  The plate wasnt that valuable - who knows, he may have kept the shell and the plate and may have other plans for it in the long term but I know time was tight to get the car onto the start line.


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: peterbaker on 31 January, 2012, 09:32:36 PM
Should this interesting thread now have a new title? the Rallye is well underway and competitors are under threat of snow bound roads.


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 01 February, 2012, 07:24:41 AM
I had an email from Andrew yesterday. The car is a Dutch registered Vere Lancia borrowed 1300 series 1 car.  As Peter says the conditions have been so poor with heavy snow catching all unawares that the organisers are considering wiping the slate clean today and starting things from scratch!   Not sure what happened to OWE!


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: peterbaker on 01 February, 2012, 08:55:21 AM
The Graham brother took seven hours to cover 200kms in their Fulvia. Our reporter arrives tomorrow!


Title: Re: 2012 Monte Carlo Rallye
Post by: bruciebonuz on 01 February, 2012, 09:29:38 AM
Sounds like an adventure (of sorts):

"We cut and ran and spent 6 hrs negotiating snow bound autoroute, miles of artics that had been coralled by the Gendarmarie and 3 abreast mobile snowploughs "

Poor Sandro!