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Model Technical and Interest => Flavia => Topic started by: phil-m on 03 October, 2011, 01:01:45 PM



Title: Sport Register
Post by: phil-m on 03 October, 2011, 01:01:45 PM
I would like to pull together some form of register for the Flavia Sport, much like the one Roddy Young has done based on Peter Pompelli's original work. Ideally a chassis No and brief history of the car, the information would help determine;
1. How many cars were really built
2. How many are left
3. Help share info on the cars

If anyone would like to share the info on their cars with me that would be great and I could start something off. I would not make any of the info public or shareable without explicit permision.

Thanks,


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 03 October, 2011, 05:52:54 PM
I have an old 'register'of Flavia Sports compiled in the eighties which may be of help. I will p.m. you.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: roddy on 04 October, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
Hello Phil

The original Register compiled by Peter had two appendices :-  "Fulvia Sports not in the Register" and "List of known Flavia Sports".   The Fulvia one formed the original basis of the records that I now maintain.

If you wish I can scan the sheets for Flavia (5 sheets A5) and Email them to you.   Over the years I have made some manuscript amendments to them, so they would not be suitable as a primary record, but for extracting the information, etc.

Regards - Roddy


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: phil-m on 05 October, 2011, 04:29:13 PM
Roddy, Ade, thanks for that a great start ;D I have Peters old list by the ammendments will be a big help.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: phil-m on 17 December, 2011, 07:50:03 PM
I have now compiled my first draft. Going through previous list etc and sales that I have noted I have around 60 cars listed. I am begining to think that a lot less than 600 odd made in the first place. Any more info gladly received.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: B20B24 on 17 December, 2011, 08:12:32 PM
I've been lucky enough to own 3 of these fabulous cars, the following may help:

PGY 7E - a late silver fully restored 1.8 RHD car which was sadly written off in 2000 after a bad accident (she was my daily driver)

PRX 31B - a 1.8 left hooker in mendoza blue, original car sold by me early 1990s and now I believe in Japan

XXX - an early 1.8 right hooker in Lancia blue over cream interior, can't recall the number now but I bought it from a guy in Haywards Heath who unfortuately died shortly thereafter; I'll try and find a pic with the registration number somewhere. 1988ish

Clive



Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 18 December, 2011, 11:10:17 AM
Clive, would your other Flavia Sport have been the one owned by Miff Cook?

GPE 837C


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 18 December, 2011, 11:12:53 AM
Here's a photo of PRX 31B from when it was last offered for sale.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 18 December, 2011, 11:34:10 AM
and a couple of photos of some I used to own.
PHM 8E went to Australia
CYM 2C was the ex-AutoCar test car. I believe it is currently owned by Omicron and is still in the same condition as when I owned it about 25 years ago. Would be a nice car to restore!  http://omicron.uk.com/php/phpclassifieds/flavia-sport-autocar-road-test-car/


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: B20B24 on 18 December, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
Clive, would your other Flavia Sport have been the one owned by Miff Cook?

GPE 837C

Yes, I believe it was his but the number does not ring a bell (and it never had that additional badge on the bonnet either). I smoked it around for a year or so and sold it to Richard Banks, the Alfafanatics chap who bought it on behalf of a customer of his at the time. It was the best driving of the 3 Flavia Sports, and the only one which had perfect door glass shut when the glass was up - the others caught fractionally on the leading edge. The Sports are tougher than they look too - PGY 7E was T boned by a BM doing 50ish mph, it ended up a bit banana shaped but I had not a scratch on me. I'll scan the snaps and upload soon.

Clive


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 18 December, 2011, 05:52:26 PM
That's a shame to hear about the demise of PGY 7E, the last time I saw it was in the mid-eighties when it belonged to a car collector near Edinburgh. He had loads of Lancias some which were wrecks and some that were excellent low mileage cars, but all were poorly stored. Photo of PGY next to a 2.8 Flaminia Touring RHD with a couple of Citroens in the foreground.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: phil-m on 18 December, 2011, 07:42:49 PM
Thanks for all that, a real flurry of info. I had all those cars but the notes about them are invaluable for filling in gaps in history. Any more info, just keep it comming.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: B20B24 on 18 December, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
That's a shame to hear about the demise of PGY 7E, the last time I saw it was in the mid-eighties when it belonged to a car collector near Edinburgh. He had loads of Lancias some which were wrecks and some that were excellent low mileage cars, but all were poorly stored. Photo of PGY next to a 2.8 Flaminia Touring RHD with a couple of Citroens in the foreground.

Wow - great pic. I bought the car from a gay couple in London who had had it bodily restored by Omicron - it was a very sharp looking car, with beautiful paint. I remember they told me after they bought the car - maybe from this Scottish collection - and then went on holiday in it when a tyre punctured. Went to jack it up - you can guess the rest. Enter the open cheque book structural and body restoration - from memory 50 grands worth of receipts (and that was 20 years ago). Had a PF coupe engine in it I recall, and didn't go as well as the other two examples, but boy the body was good!


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: vigzag on 19 December, 2011, 08:40:10 PM
one of my Sport's when I foolishly opened both doors at the same time.............................


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: vigzag on 19 December, 2011, 08:47:55 PM
oh and the structurally better one.....................................


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: B20B24 on 20 December, 2011, 12:57:18 PM
oh and the structurally better one.....................................

Blimey - the red car is a shocker!

All this talk of Flavia Sports has got me wanting one again - saw this example online, a super rare 1500 model with one owner from new! - original paint apparently - sold in 48 hours (20k CHF)

Oh well...


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: B20B24 on 20 December, 2011, 12:59:13 PM
Interior of same 1500 car - lovely


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 20 December, 2011, 02:05:17 PM
Here are a couple more Sport photos, the blue pair were in the same collection as PGY 7E, the one on the left was registered
 NOO 195C, the one on the right is PGP 74E, they were both sold to Italy.
The next photo is from the AGM at Chester in 2001, PLP 15E.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 20 December, 2011, 02:09:56 PM
This is HGC 5C


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 20 December, 2011, 02:14:09 PM
While we are on the subject of Flavia Sports, here's one of the two Flavia Supersports built.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 20 December, 2011, 02:46:38 PM
ECC 486E belonging to Paul Bishop at the AGM in Swindon 2008


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 20 December, 2011, 02:48:41 PM
CYM 6C and PHX 3E at Covent Garden in 2003. There is also another sport in this picture, perhaps someone knows the registration number.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 20 December, 2011, 02:50:37 PM
FRR 37C belonging to Brian Hands at the Classic Car Show in 2010.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 20 December, 2011, 03:24:08 PM
Fred Anderson's Sport TUP 98E on a group test for Classic & Sportscar in 1992


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: vigzag on 20 December, 2011, 04:44:24 PM
a few updates:-

the silver car PLP15E now resides in Greece
the dark blue car in the Covent Garden shot is my car i.e. KKB511D
FRR37C i.e. Brian Hands' car was originally DUT70C but the DVLA wouldn't reallocate the number



Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: vigzag on 20 December, 2011, 06:57:52 PM
plus the red car, which was originally ivory, was KSS857C and unearthed after spending 30 odd years in a garden in Leeds and has subsequently been scrapped.


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 01 January, 2012, 11:24:17 AM
This is JUF 313E at the LMC AGM in 2001


Title: Re: Sport Register
Post by: phil-m on 01 January, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
More great info, thanks. I had all those other than JUF 313E but the notes on history and the images of the other cars are really helpful. I now have 60 cars so nearly 10% of the reported production run. I am adding a tab in my spreadsheet for each car that I have images for so any mores pictures gratefully received.