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General => General Chat => Topic started by: Jolly_Club_6 on 29 September, 2011, 09:50:39 PM



Title: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Jolly_Club_6 on 29 September, 2011, 09:50:39 PM
Wondered if anyone could confirm these power figures ? They just seem a bit mental, 600bhp through a 1800 lump, rebuild per race.  ???

Delta S4 Spec (http://www.supercars.net/cars/3601.html)


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: sparehead3 on 30 September, 2011, 06:48:53 AM
Mental is a good description :) They are right though ... sounds good too


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: nic038 on 30 September, 2011, 01:14:27 PM
Best sound I ever heard was the s4's of Markku Alén and Henri Toivonen coming through the forests in the pitch dark night time(Lombard RAC 1985 ).nothing else sounded close to the loudness or as menacing.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Neil on 30 September, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
Yes I agree with that, saw 2x S4s in action on the 1986 RAC at Badminton (Alen and Erikkson), fabulous, you can't beat a Group B rally car in full flight!


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: rikardo on 01 October, 2011, 01:19:27 AM
If you haven't seen this before, I recommend it to all you rally fans. (Ignore the brief intro and outro, they've been added.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2soqVbaZoLk

I've got this on VHS somewhere, with a different Italian-into-English commentary.
I must dig it out.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: fay66 on 01 October, 2011, 09:34:24 AM
I see we're all merrily chatting away about S4 which is great, but did anyone actually come up with any suggestions where Julia might lay her hands on one for a photoshoot, more to the point are there any in the UK?

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: rikardo on 01 October, 2011, 10:27:05 AM
The only one I've seen recently is the burgundy one shown in that post.
It's not stradale, but it may be the closest available.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: nic038 on 01 October, 2011, 11:44:29 AM
likewise, believe it was the same one that was at the race retro, prior to that it would have to be the one at walkers garage. julia has been made aware of both.
if the search for a car is going overseas then Beppe volta would be my first port of call.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: angelorange on 01 October, 2011, 02:39:20 PM
I see we're all merrily chatting away about S4 which is great, but did anyone actually come up with any suggestions where Julia might lay her hands on one for a photoshoot, more to the point are there any in the UK?

Brian
8227 8)



I have contact with HLR's  G Volta and A Francone in Turin if you want details call me. Flying there is now about as cheap as filling your car up with UL! (apart from the dreaded APD tax!).



Title: S2 howl !
Post by: angelorange on 02 October, 2011, 11:12:34 AM
More fabulous S2 noise:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7P9D2lrIQk&NR=1



Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Julia on 02 October, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
I have contact with HLR's  G Volta and A Francone in Turin if you want details call me.

Sent a PM to you. (thank you to whoever fixed my PM issue :) )

P.S. It has to be stradale.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: 038tipo on 03 October, 2011, 10:01:39 AM
The S4 corsa was between 450-600bhp depending on what they needed.
All man enough to take that power.
The only stradale in UK at the moment is the one in the Historic Motorsport collection in Daventry, the ex patrick collection car is in Turin being re-commissioned. Not by the obvious names mentioned....
Paul


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: nic038 on 03 October, 2011, 01:38:08 PM
Little bit of nostalgia, unfortunately the sound recorded does not do justice to real thing..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=644mljkBt4A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRHB69pa0RY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKyTROdXrc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ_K03yM7A4

Still believe thats how rallys should be run without pace notes,testing the cars and drivers right to the limit.

Paul  (038tipo ) how did a road spec s4 compare to an integrale hf for normal road use, with 10 years of technology changes between them ?


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Julia on 03 October, 2011, 08:46:20 PM

The only stradale in UK at the moment is the one in the Historic Motorsport collection in Daventry

Not anymore, all gone.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: 038tipo on 05 October, 2011, 10:54:33 AM
Are you sure? I was told only last week it was still there..


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: 038tipo on 05 October, 2011, 11:04:16 AM
Nick.
Completely different car! Suspension was fully adjustable and felt more compliant and not so hard, power delivery instant and did not "run out of breath" as an integrale does off boost, steering very quick but lacked balance and feel of integrale, brakes were as good (not bad for 1985), nice cabin and materials, switchgear a little dated, very noisy but refinded compared to other Grp B cars, too low geared for long motorway use, and the A/C MUST be working, otherwise you cook as no airflow comes through the sliding windows as the air is being sucked into the "ears" at the back.You always felt it was very capable and no body roll existed.weight distribution different as engine at rear not front..noise amazing


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: nic038 on 05 October, 2011, 02:32:15 PM
Thanks very much for that insight, S4 must have been well ahead of it's time.
Must remember to put the lottery on tonight.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: 038tipo on 05 October, 2011, 02:56:54 PM
Apparently it is all complete still albeit in another location, if you call Mark on 07901712255 he will try and arrange for you.
Paul.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Julia on 05 October, 2011, 05:51:04 PM
Are you sure? I was told only last week it was still there..

Yes, I was told it was there, too ;D But it isn't. It has been sold in 2008 and is currently in Oregon, US.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: 038tipo on 12 October, 2011, 11:12:06 AM
Julia.
Mark seems to think it is still in the UK have you contacted him?
Paul.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Julia on 12 October, 2011, 04:36:59 PM
Julia.
Mark seems to think it is still in the UK have you contacted him?
Paul.

Yep, all sorted thank you! :) Now I have more S4s than I was after!


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Neil on 12 October, 2011, 05:08:16 PM
Julia, how many were you offered? It would be interesting to see how many there are in the UK at present.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Julia on 12 October, 2011, 05:24:29 PM
Julia, how many were you offered? It would be interesting to see how many there are in the UK at present.

I don't really know how many there are in the UK, but I came across 2 fully original ones and a couple of converted/modified ones. Oh and a really good replica.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Betaboy2.0 on 12 October, 2011, 06:21:53 PM
Well done Julia.

Sterling work for your first challenge!!

Andy


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: nic038 on 12 October, 2011, 06:23:01 PM
that would be worth a magazine article in it's own right to get them altogether  ;D


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: 038tipo on 13 October, 2011, 12:39:28 PM
Julia, there should be 3 in total, the ex Patrick Collection car, the one which was at Historic motorsport, and the stradale which was used in the Monte carlo rally in 1986(also ex historic motorsport)
There is a green one here somewhere too, which is not normal stradale.
Paul.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Julia on 13 October, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
Julia, there should be 3 in total, the ex Patrick Collection car, the one which was at Historic motorsport, and the stradale which was used in the Monte carlo rally in 1986(also ex historic motorsport)
There is a green one here somewhere too, which is not normal stradale.
Paul.

The one that was used in the Monte Carlo rally has a corse front, doesn't it? I've counted it as 'modified'. Not heard of the green one, but now extremely curious!


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: 038tipo on 14 October, 2011, 01:44:45 PM
Yes that's it and now having lightweight panels made.
The green one was a potenziato factory car with more power and front section was like corsa version.
It sold at auction for little cost as condition was bad and it has not been seen since.
Where were the others you mentioned?


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Julia on 14 October, 2011, 08:47:19 PM
Yes that's it and now having lightweight panels made.
The green one was a potenziato factory car with more power and front section was like corsa version.
It sold at auction for little cost as condition was bad and it has not been seen since.

Hmm, any chance of the license plate number?

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Where were the others you mentioned?

I can't give away all my secrets! ;D The one that will actually be used for the shoot has been found via Mark.


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: 038tipo on 17 October, 2011, 11:22:29 AM
Oh I see, I can also do that!  ;D


Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Richard Fridd on 17 October, 2011, 12:07:57 PM




The one that was used in the Monte Carlo rally has a corse front, doesn't it? I've counted it as 'modified'. Not heard of the green one, but now extremely curious!
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Title: Re: Lancia Delta S4 ?
Post by: Jolly_Club_6 on 17 October, 2011, 12:50:51 PM
 :D probably a Cosa Nostra car...