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General => General Chat => Topic started by: HF_Dave on 11 July, 2011, 09:24:14 PM



Title: Integrale from Japan
Post by: HF_Dave on 11 July, 2011, 09:24:14 PM
Does anyone know if the chassis numbers of the Integrale's that went to japan start with special series of numbers ? I had a chap on to me regarding a 1992 16v thats not an evo and wants to import it tn to Ireland. The import duity He was quoted was 5200.00 which is based on the open market price of a 1992 Integrale. The chassis number is zla831ABO 005366080. Which must read as an EVO. Thanks David.


Title: Re: Integrale from Japan
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 12 July, 2011, 09:02:53 PM
The car was made in the EU so shouldn't attract import duty. Only VAT?


Title: Re: Integrale from Japan
Post by: sparehead3 on 12 July, 2011, 09:51:25 PM
It isn't a japanese spec evo that has the 16v headlights ?


Title: Re: Integrale from Japan
Post by: Kevin MacBride on 12 July, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
The car was made in the EU so shouldn't attract import duty. Only VAT?
Cars imported into Ireland from anywhere, regardless of where they were made are subject to VRT (Vehicle registration tax). No one really knows how they figure out VRT, it could be based on moon phases', months of the year with an 'r' in them, how many pints the vrt clerk had the night before, or a figure plucked out of thin air. Any car over 30 years old regardless of value (10 million K Ferrari for example) is 250 Euro, however newer stuff is a minefield.


Title: Re: Integrale from Japan
Post by: 038tipo on 13 July, 2011, 10:26:50 AM
The cars that went to japan were in series but they will be traceable if a chassis no check is done by say Walkers who will charge a nominal fee. They should have 16V headlights, square indicator repeaters and a square HF badge on the front wings if it is an official import, there will have been some imported to Japan at the time which were un-official and are most probably Italian spec cars.
The chassis check will confirm this.
Paul.


Title: Re: Integrale from Japan
Post by: HF_Dave on 13 July, 2011, 06:56:24 PM
Kevin Is right ! the fugure is one that is a guess as to what the open market value of the car is regardless of condition. Evo's attract the higest rate and the 16v's 8v's ect all the way down. They are regarded by the Revenue as "classic lancia's" so you can't get a quote on -line you are at the mercy of the clerk, You Boys in the UK don't know how lucky you are because when you pay the duity you have to pay annual road tax of 630.00 . It Really Hurts  ???. It's bad enough with the up-keep costing so much without compounding it with this stealth tax. Thanks David. :)


Title: Re: Integrale from Japan
Post by: HF_Dave on 13 July, 2011, 07:03:02 PM
I just looked at the Grale No 11 for sale, Maybe thats the open market value they put on the car ;D


Title: Re: Integrale from Japan
Post by: toby2449 on 13 July, 2011, 07:49:35 PM
The car was made in the EU so shouldn't attract import duty. Only VAT?
Cars imported into Ireland from anywhere, regardless of where they were made are subject to VRT (Vehicle registration tax). No one really knows how they figure out VRT, it could be based on moon phases', months of the year with an 'r' in them, how many pints the vrt clerk had the night before, or a figure plucked out of thin air. Any car over 30 years old regardless of value (10 million K Ferrari for example) is 250 Euro, however newer stuff is a minefield.

couldn't agree more!!! Though in many cases even with paying VRT if someone can afford to buy a UK motor & import it, its generally cheaper than buying a car here (certainly true of used cars!)


Title: Re: Integrale from Japan
Post by: HF_Dave on 15 July, 2011, 05:33:23 PM
Most second hand cars in the Uk are better value than in Ireland except for large luxury cars and Alfa's. Alfa's seem to hold their value better in the UK. :) I wonder would it be the same for Lancia's if they were still on sale ? Thanks David. ;)