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Title: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 17 December, 2010, 05:59:01 PM
I've been told this week at work that they need 24/7 access to the company van that I have been allowed to use for my weekday commute so I suddenly find myself looking for another Lancia that is considerably less thirsty than my Themas. Does anyone have a not too rough Y10 that they would like to go to a caring home?

Seasons greetings Murf.


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: DavidLaver on 17 December, 2010, 09:05:47 PM

...and I have a friend who'd be interested in one as rough as you like as long as it had an MOT or at the very least a believable fail sheet.   

David


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: LanciAlan on 18 December, 2010, 02:32:02 PM
Murf

You are not alone. Since petrol went up in the budget here last month I have been unable to bring myself to fill the tank of any of my regular 25mpg cars (Flavia/W124) so they are all running on the red light and I am now running down the wife's Golf which is better for the snow that accompanied the budget and since.

I am getting a Y10 for Christmas which I hope to press into service as the recession deepens and after doing a few jobs on it. Jack Romano says they run on petrol fumes and, judging by the one I have already, I don't doubt it.

Good luck in your search!

Murph



Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: the.cern on 18 December, 2010, 03:38:17 PM
Murph,

             If you've been a good boy and Santa brings you a Y10 as hoped, you'll have to change your signature on the 26th!!!!

                                  Andy


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: fay66 on 19 December, 2010, 01:00:57 AM
I've been told this week at work that they need 24/7 access to the company van that I have been allowed to use for my weekday commute so I suddenly find myself looking for another Lancia that is considerably less thirsty than my Themas. Does anyone have a not too rough Y10 that they would like to go to a caring home?

Seasons greetings Murf.

Murf,
this is the one you want http://www.autoscout24.it/Details.aspx?id=186887774 unfortunately it's in Italy and they never came here.
I went after one when I was in Belgium about 5 years ago but someone beat me to it.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: DavidLaver on 19 December, 2010, 10:53:22 AM

My brother has fond memories of a 4x4 Panda.

David


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: fay66 on 19 December, 2010, 11:00:36 AM

My brother has fond memories of a 4x4 Panda.

David
So have I, I bought one new in 1986 although the Y10 4x4 has a different system with the engagement using vacuum cylinders.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: HF_Dave on 19 December, 2010, 11:41:16 AM
I bought an Ypsilon last august , left hand drive, no problem, punto mechanicals no problem, fill of petrol no problem, 60.00, only problem I dont drive my other cars, the grale is very hard on juice, the Thema is better,but the Ypsilon runs on the smell of a wet rag and it's quite nippy. Also they are as cheap as chips more refined than a Y10 , so have a look for one . ;D. David.


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: HF_Dave on 19 December, 2010, 11:51:58 AM
Brian, on the 4x4 , I can rember the Fiat panda 4x4 being sold along side a Y10 4x4 lhd in our local Lancia dealer, the Garage imported it for a customer in the Horse business who already had a Hpe vx  and wanted a little bit of luxury when driving through the fields to visit the horses. I don't know it this is true but it made a cheap alternitave to a Range Rover :)


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: fensaddler on 19 December, 2010, 12:08:20 PM
I've been told this week at work that they need 24/7 access to the company van that I have been allowed to use for my weekday commute so I suddenly find myself looking for another Lancia that is considerably less thirsty than my Themas. Does anyone have a not too rough Y10 that they would like to go to a caring home?

Seasons greetings Murf.

Murf,
this is the one you want http://www.autoscout24.it/Details.aspx?id=186887774 unfortunately it's in Italy and they never came here.
I went after one when I was in Belgium about 5 years ago but someone beat me to it.

Brian
8227 8)

1400 Euros?  They are taking the p*** surely?  Its a tatty old car that looks like its *never* been washed.  Still - 4wd.  That counts for a lot at the moment.  Stuff my Scirocco, what I really need right now is an Octavia Scout.


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: fay66 on 19 December, 2010, 02:27:43 PM
Brian, on the 4x4 , I can rember the Fiat panda 4x4 being sold along side a Y10 4x4 lhd in our local Lancia dealer, the Garage imported it for a customer in the Horse business who already had a Hpe vx  and wanted a little bit of luxury when driving through the fields to visit the horses. I don't know it this is true but it made a cheap alternitave to a Range Rover :)

Panda was excellent in snow as it was light, had some nice Mud & Snow chunky tyres, and much more capable than you would think,  only thing is never run them in 4 wheel drive on dry roads as they don't have a centre diff, and wind up the axle something wicked :o
The other good one was the Suzuki SJ410 & 413 Jeeps, go more or less anywhere as once again they were light but also had proper 4 wheel drive and locking front hubs, used to love our Austin Champs in the Army but they were really too heavy in bad conditions.

Brian
 8227 8)


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: Lindsay on 19 December, 2010, 03:47:41 PM
I have a 2005 Panda 4x4 and can thoroughly recommend it. Slowest thing on the road most of the time but in this weather, one of the quickest!


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 20 December, 2010, 05:58:22 PM
I'm amazed at the deluge of posts in response to my request. Thank you guys for the suggestions. I think that i ought to widen my search to include Ypsilons. Anyone got a slightly doggy example they would like to re-home? Alternatively a 4x4 Panda but I think I'd really struggle to squeeze in as I'm 1.97m tall. I will check out the websites to see whats about .

Murf


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: Lindsay on 22 December, 2010, 08:41:58 AM
I'm amazed at the deluge of posts in response to my request. Thank you guys for the suggestions. I think that i ought to widen my search to include Ypsilons. Anyone got a slightly doggy example they would like to re-home? Alternatively a 4x4 Panda but I think I'd really struggle to squeeze in as I'm 1.97m tall. I will check out the websites to see whats about .

Murf

Well I'm 6ft and nigh on 17 stone and I find there is plenty of room in the Panda.....(don't do metres!)- but it isn't a Lancia. In saying that, it will be as much a Lancia as any upcoming chryslers!


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: fay66 on 22 December, 2010, 08:57:34 AM
I'm amazed at the deluge of posts in response to my request. Thank you guys for the suggestions. I think that i ought to widen my search to include Ypsilons. Anyone got a slightly doggy example they would like to re-home? Alternatively a 4x4 Panda but I think I'd really struggle to squeeze in as I'm 1.97m tall. I will check out the websites to see whats about .

Murf

Well I'm 6ft and nigh on 17 stone and I find there is plenty of room in the Panda.....(don't do metres!)- but it isn't a Lancia. In saying that, it will be as much a Lancia as any upcoming chryslers!
Can't say the old one was a problem either, it had plenty of room even if I'm not 6 foot,
Could do with one right now as we're having more of the white stuff and waiting for my snow chains(sort of) to arrive.
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: DavidLaver on 22 December, 2010, 11:50:00 AM

My friend who was looking for a Y10 with an MOT as his runabout/commuter has just spent his money on a Reliant Scimitar with no MOT.  The trouble with all those old road tests is that they never get the true market place rivials lined up against each other.

David


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 31 March, 2011, 11:01:47 PM
 I have joined the exclusive and it would seem 'thin' ranks of Y10 ownership. The aforementioned is a metallic light blue 1.0 litre Fire LX and I have been chugging to and from work in it with a huge grin on my face, watching the apparently static petrol gauge in amazement.
The car has a longish MOT and is taxed until November so that should be long enough for us to get to each other. So far all I've done is put two Klebers on the front wheels, have the cambelt renewed and the water pump replaced as I was advised by the garage that with 115k on the clock the impeller might be tempted to part company from it's shaft.
Being a Y10 novice I would appreciate some advice on spares availability etc. Is there a spares consortium like the TDC or something similar?
The only fly in my ointment with this very sensible purchase is the ultimatum from my wife that a Lancia has to be sacrificed (ie sold) to make room for the new and essential commuter.Having recently ploughed large amounts of cash into both the Themas I have very reluctantly promised to attempt to sell my project Fulvia.
It has been pointed out to me that retirement is not on the agenda so there is'nt going to be any spare time to do the restoration and anyway if I'm not working how can I possibly consider spending   the sort of money required. I find myself sinking into a decline!!
Seriously though, I am terrifically impressed with the way the old thing goes on it's 999cc and the way it hangs on around the Suffolk lanes. Getting my 2m frame in and out has become easier with practice but I may have to modify the seat runners if possible to give me a bit more legroom.

Best regards, Murf.   


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: fay66 on 01 April, 2011, 12:23:48 AM
Murf,
Great little car particularily the 999cc Fire, we had a 1986 Fire that Diane loved, evetually sold but later on bought a Y10 GTie, went like stink but not as nice to drive as the fire, owing to the weight of cast iron lump up front and the wide tyres, so much so that she couldn't drive it as it was too heavy on the steering, and it certainly made my arms ache when pushing on.
For spares best bet is ebay Germany/Italy & holland, in general what you want sooner or later comes up, the one thing that was a pain to get hold of was a good tailgate.
If you need them anytime I have manuals covering all the RHD Y10's including the 4x4, now that!
Sorry to hear the Fulvia's got to go though.
Brian


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: the.cern on 01 April, 2011, 08:20:56 PM
Murf, you are a very lucky guy to be the owner of a Y10. I've owned 4, 3 with the FIRE engine and one being an ie. I really enjoyed the FIRE engined cars and used them a lot, although they were bought as first cars for my then teenage children. Very easy to work on and mechanical spares not a problem although the door mirrors were always a challenge !!!!

Good luck with it and I hope you continue to enjoy it as much as you seem to be at the moment.

                   Andy


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 05 April, 2011, 05:12:03 PM
I'm still enjoying the novelty of charging around Suffolk in my new acquisition but there are a couple of quirks that I am finding a bit puzzling. The fuel gauge seems to be a little random in that the reserve light appears when there is still a quarter of a tank, so as a result I have been slightly nervous about how long I can leave it until I refill. Does anyone have any wisdom on how far I should be able to drive with the light on constantly and what the range between fill-ups should be, driven sensibly.
The other issue which I'm slowly coming to terms with is the cold starting which is quite tricky to get right but I suppose that will come with practice.
Thanks everyone for the encouragement. Best regards, Murf. 


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: lee69 on 05 April, 2011, 09:58:07 PM
I have a bit of a reputation in my family for running my first Y10 with the orange reserve light and on fumes. I only got caught out once, needing Dad to come and rescue me in the Regata.

If I remember correctly, I used to start mine with a the choke out and no gas, but it was nearly 20 years ago  :o

Have fun, I miss my Y10


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: Betaboy2.0 on 06 April, 2011, 09:40:29 AM
Yes - starting a carburettored 999 FIRE engine from cold, full choke, no throttle and it should fire up almost instantly. It will probably then cut out (or nearly cut out) as soon as you go to pull away, but they always seemed to do that! From new they aways needed a bit of jiggling with the choke for the first few miles in traffic to try to get the right balance of not cutting out and not racing away.

Ahh - a choke ........ those were the days!

Fire LX .... I'm jealous! Nice spec and I agree totally with Brian. Far better balanced to drive than the GTie.


Andy


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: the.cern on 06 April, 2011, 04:39:16 PM
Murf, hope you've cracked the starting thing with all the advice, I don't remember having a problem ..... but unfortunately there are lots of things I don't remember nowadays !!!!!!!!

I'm about to scrap a 998 FIRE engine, most ancillaries have gone but I think I still have the carb. and inlet manifold and also the fuel pump if you want them ... and fancy a trip to sunny (well, it is today at least) Southend -on-Sea.

                       Andy


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 07 April, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
Yes you are all correct about the full choke/no throttle from cold. It starts instantly, the problem with my lack of practice is keeping it running smoothly for the first couple of miles without it going all lumpy and threatening to die on me. There is a particularly hazardous blind junction about half a mile from my house which I have to negotiate during the week on my way to work and on several occasions I've had people trying to climb over the tailgate as I falteringly pull away from a standstill. My technique at easing the choke off can only improve with familiarity so I hope that someone who is late for work does'nt take me out before I get the hang of it!!!
Many thanks Andy for your kind offer, I'm certainly interested in the parts. Please call me on 07921489571 and we'll make an arrangement for me to come to Southend.

Best regards, Murf.


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: Jai Sharma on 08 April, 2011, 07:04:38 AM
I also have a Y10 roof rack (or at least it was said to be in the LMC mag where I bought it from) and some new rubber seals for, I think, the door openings. Happy to give you these FOC if you collect or can post. I am near Chelmsford so if you are going to Southend might be nearly on the way.
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Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: fay66 on 08 April, 2011, 08:28:35 PM
I also have a Y10 roof rack (or at least it was said to be in the LMC mag where I bought it from) and some new rubber seals for, I think, the door openings. Happy to give you these FOC if you collect or can post. I am near Chelmsford so if you are going to Southend might be nearly on the way.
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I think it's either the same or similar to what I had for the Panda 4x4, a bit of a funny arrangement as it hooked under the rear qtr light opening windows at the rear, and had the usual type clamps at the front?

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 11 April, 2011, 04:20:36 PM
Hi Jai, Thanks for your kind offer of the roof-rack. I'm waiting to hear back from Andy about collecting his bits from Southend so will give you a call when I have a date and can then hopefully do a round trip.

 Best regards, Murf.


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: LanciAlan on 12 April, 2011, 10:47:30 PM
Murf

Me too ....

Murph

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Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 13 April, 2011, 09:53:21 PM
Hi Murph, The Y10 looks great in black and I like the way the pin-striping accentuates the continuous sweep up, all the way from the front to back of the car. I will try and take some shots of the new toy this weekend and get someone at work to show me how to post them on here.

Best regards, Murf.


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: lee69 on 13 April, 2011, 10:28:54 PM
Ah, a Fila, just like my first Lancia. Happy memories....


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: frankxhv773t on 02 May, 2011, 09:43:26 PM
Hi Murf.
           Mine is the red Fire LX that has been at the AGM the last few years. I too use it as my daily commuting car. Answer to the range on a tank of fuel, I work on 350 miles commuting and 450 on a run but you may do better because my engine is a bit worn and isn't getting up to temperature properly these days either.

As to starting, I do two strokes of the throttle pedal, fairly full choke then turn the key. If you are bogging down pulling away from junctions then you are just putting the choke in too soon. Use the temperature guage to judge when to push the choke in and just experiment to find the right point for your car. Also I push the choke in in stages as the engine comes up to temperature. 

I have a small cache of Fire LX spares and will always be delighted to give help in any way I can. I am not very regular on the forum but you can get me on my e-mail, f.tierney@btinternet.com

Please consider bringing your Y10 to the AGM to save the committee the embarrasment of having to give me the Y10 concourse prize again!


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 05 May, 2011, 12:01:59 PM
Hi Frank, Thank you for the info about fuel range/ starting. I'm getting those sort of figures which is encouraging. It does seem daft though that the reserve light starts to flicker when the tank is still reading at least a quarter full.
As far as the starting proceedure is concerned I have learnt by trial and error over the last few weeks to do pretty much what you have suggested which has resulted in a slightly less lumpy start to the journey every day.
Touch wood all seems to be running well with the car at present but thanks also for your offer of help with spares.

Kind regards, Murf.


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: frankxhv773t on 08 May, 2011, 06:32:17 PM
Hi Murf. I find the top half of the tank does twice as far as the bottom half of the tank which must be to do with how the sender works. On that basis the reserve light is comming on at a sixth of a tank rather than a quarter. It still gives you fifty or sixty miles range though which on my regular commute means think about getting some fuel tomorrow or the next day!

Frank


Title: Re: Y10 for daily commuting
Post by: murf on 11 May, 2011, 11:52:48 AM
Hi Frank, Thats reassuring info as I too frequently go to the garage and taking one look at the queue decide to come back the next day in the forlorn hope that everyone else will be at home when I need petrol.

Best regards, Murf.