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Model Technical and Interest => Aurelia => Topic started by: GreenB20 on 08 August, 2010, 05:57:23 PM



Title: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 08 August, 2010, 05:57:23 PM
Help needed in tracing the history of my B20 4th series (69 FLD).

Known history:
Left factory (chassis no. B20-2971) on 18-6-1954
Registered in England 7-3-1963
Owned from 1975 to ? by D.A.Spolton of Lincolnshire
1981 to 1985 owned by Michael Mulford of Sussex
17-7-1993 to 13-9-2002 owned by Paul Winrow of Northamptonshire
14-9-2002 bought by myself, now residing in Wiltshire.

Any help filling the gaps would be appreciated. Photos of its history follow - first ones from 1978 LMC AGM. Ed


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 08 August, 2010, 06:03:36 PM
More photos of my Aurelia (Sussex 1985 and Wiltshire 2009)


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 08 August, 2010, 06:07:02 PM
Another photo: on arrival at the paint shop 3-8-2010


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 08 August, 2010, 06:20:37 PM
At the 2004 Aurelia Lunch


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: Richard Fridd on 09 August, 2010, 05:25:36 PM
lovely!does anyone have knowledge of the B20 for sale in berkshire as seen in this months VL?


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 05 September, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
A month on and 56 years worth of paint are mostly history. Thankfully a good straight shell!


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 15 October, 2010, 08:42:03 AM
Minus all its paint now. First coat of primer goes on today.


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: chugga boom on 15 October, 2010, 09:39:34 AM
looking good  :)


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 23 October, 2010, 11:47:16 AM
First coat of etch primer:


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: Zetaman on 28 October, 2010, 09:10:31 PM
Dear Ed,

I did give you my write-up on 69 FLD didn't I?  If not I'll send it, but nothing earlier than Spolton, 1975 and it was registered 7 March 1963, so quite a gap.

Paul Mayo


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 29 October, 2010, 10:17:44 AM
Yes, thanks Paul. I have no earlier history, which would be nice to have. It was obviously imported, so where from? Ed


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 15 December, 2010, 12:47:13 PM
I now have my wheels back from Lepsons, they have blasted, repaired and powder coated them in the same green that the car will be. Close up below:


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 15 December, 2010, 12:48:21 PM
Here is the wheel with hub cap and trim:


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 15 December, 2010, 12:49:47 PM
.....and the full set (yes I know there are 6, but you never know when you'll need a spare, spare!)


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: rodney3010 on 16 December, 2010, 08:21:42 PM
Firstly, VERY nice colour
Secondly, please excuse my ignorance, why did you decide to powder coat the wheels instead of painting? Whats the advantage? is it purely durability?


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: fay66 on 17 December, 2010, 12:15:49 AM
Firstly, VERY nice colour
Secondly, please excuse my ignorance, why did you decide to powder coat the wheels instead of painting? Whats the advantage? is it purely durability?

And what are the costs compared to painting please.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 17 December, 2010, 09:51:03 AM
The powder coating is much much harder than paint and therefore will last a lot longer - I hope. Lepsons do a full service of refurbishment and had a fair amount of work to do on my wheels, so the cost was £70+VAT per wheel plus a small extra charge for the colour of paint, which I think was reasonable. They normally do alloy wheel refurbishment, my wife's Mini alloy wheel cost £63+VAT to refurbish and it looked like new!


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: ColinMarr on 17 December, 2010, 11:37:02 AM
Sounds good and looks good, but others beware! Lepsons have a good reputation, but at first they made a mess of my Cromadoras because they assumed wrongly that they were aluminium alloy and not magnesium-aluminium. The pre-treatment is different and mine had to be done again.

Colin


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 17 December, 2010, 06:00:09 PM
Ahhh....wondered who the Cromadoras belonged to - saw them there.


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 04 August, 2011, 05:25:02 PM
Slow progress............but the n/s wing has now been shaped to the correct profile.


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 04 August, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
Another picture of the n/s rear wing


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: the.cern on 05 August, 2011, 09:17:24 AM
Ed, that looks like a lot of work, but have I missed something ?  What was the problem with the wing ?   I thought you were further on than that, with the whole body in at least etch primer.

Good luck with it, what is your chassis number, mine is 3447 and I've been told that is late for a 4th series.

                               Andy



Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 05 August, 2011, 02:40:42 PM
Andy, first the car had all its paint stripped off and then it was given a coat of etch primer, then my paint chap starts getting the shape right with filler. I'm not sure how other paint shops do their prep but this seems to work. Andy (the paint man) did Ade's car as well.


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: chugga boom on 05 August, 2011, 02:58:42 PM
i usually bare metal all over, etch then fill over the top, etch is good to stop surface rust starting but thin enough to show up defects such as pin holes or stress cracks,it also adheases to the bare metal better than filler, however most polyester spray fillers will not go over etch though so i tend to flat it all off before this process, polyester is more stable and higher build than ordinary 2k prima and doesnt shrink like 2k can, it litterally is a filler and has to be primered over before paint, B20's looking good,  ;)


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 06 August, 2011, 12:29:29 PM
I was over at Andy's again this morning and he confirms that after the bare metal he uses etch primer, then does the filling and shaping and then another coat of etch before he undercoats the car. Things are moving on he has progressed to the front n/s wing!


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: the.cern on 06 August, 2011, 09:09:43 PM
Ed and James, thanks for those comments, I will get to  that stage one day .......... I hope !!!!

In the meantime I am fabricating a bracket to support the rear of the dynamo on the Appia. The alloy block casting should have a support but that on my car has fractured, quite a common problem I am told. My car has been making do solely with the one on the timing chain cover and I count myself lucky that has not fractured also. Having made a bracket and installed the dynamo, I  was congratulating myself on a job well done when it became apparent that I could not get the fan belt on, the new, oh so clever, bracket prevented the dynamo moving enough to get the clearance. A lot of expletives and start again. I am working outside at the moment and was beaten by the light, play will resume tomorrow morning !!

                                   Andy


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 10 January, 2015, 04:01:57 PM
Big day today.....after 4 1/2 years the paintwork on my B20 is finally finished, brought it home today.



Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: Parisien on 10 January, 2015, 04:22:19 PM
Wow.......how fabulous is that....many congrats.....champagne all round?

:)


P


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: DavidLaver on 10 January, 2015, 05:00:06 PM

I feel nervous even looking at a picture of it.  Looks perfect.


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: rogerelias on 10 January, 2015, 06:05:13 PM
Lovely ;D ;D now the tricky part, refitting without scratching the paint, masking tape and take your time  :)


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: mikeC on 10 January, 2015, 06:14:03 PM
That is truly stunning, a gorgeous colour.


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: Dilambdaman on 11 January, 2015, 09:52:10 AM
Stunningly beautiful! A very special day, well done!

From my experience next big day will be when the engine runs and then finally that first drive.

Robin.



Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: the.cern on 11 January, 2015, 10:04:36 AM
Now, that is a milestone. Congratulations on a truly superb job, you should feel rightly very proud.

What is the situation with the mechanicals? Are they ready to install, or is that just the next phase of the restoration for you.

Best of luck with the next stages and, again, congratulations.

                                                       Andy


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: chriswgawne on 11 January, 2015, 11:17:07 AM
Lovely colour Ed. How exciting!
Chris


Title: Re: AURELIA B20 - 69 FLD
Post by: GreenB20 on 13 January, 2015, 01:13:37 PM
It's all complete mechanically, a new battery and some fuel and I can take it for a spin around the yard......when dry!

It only needs fitting up.........only!  

Another shot today: