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Model Technical and Interest => Appia => Topic started by: richardlewis on 20 November, 2021, 04:51:00 PM



Title: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 20 November, 2021, 04:51:00 PM
Hooray ! Got my car back after lots of tinkering. Running beautifully so far . Tappets all adjusted, new electric fuel pump etc etc. So quiet ! , all horrid noises gone,plus Colin spent ages changing the old heater control valve for a new one off a Fulvia..all working brilliantly including fan and previously seized air control flap !
In love again !
Fingers and toes crossed !


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 10 December, 2021, 06:03:53 PM
Well , just as I thought we'd cracked it.. car misbehaving again. looked at new fuel filter and barely a trickle of fuel filling it up....so... must be a simple blockage further back, and or debris in the fuel tank, which accounts for all the annoying symptoms ! Just have to locate and ? replace fuel pipes as and where, plus check , flush out tank... another hopefully final job for Colin , although I thought he had done that already... maybe the tank is degrading inside ?
More fun and games then ...
Have a good weekend everyone !
Rich


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: Richard Fridd on 10 December, 2021, 06:23:55 PM
Is there a pick up filter in the tank?


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: lancianut666 on 11 December, 2021, 11:14:09 AM
Sure is see my thread on restoring a Series 1
Clarkey


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: donw on 11 December, 2021, 02:04:18 PM
heck the breather tube if it collapses or kinks it creates a vacuum try with the fuel cap off.


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 11 December, 2021, 06:55:59 PM
Oh , I will check that, thanks for the tip, although I think the fuel cap, original , has a gap/breather built in.


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 12 December, 2021, 10:50:01 AM
Just took the petrol cap off and ran it , but still got the same problem half a mile up the road !
I am sure there is such a simple reason , just need to be patient. I still love the car so much despite all this !


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 13 December, 2021, 09:35:30 AM
If the filter is clean try blowing through the tank to filter pipe with an airline if you have access to one. As suggested if it isn't the pipe there is a blockage in the pick up or breather, or even debris in the carburetor.

It took me 4 years and a drive to Italy to sort fuel delivery problems on my Beta, only for them to return 3 years later with blocked jet.


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: lancianut666 on 15 December, 2021, 06:32:11 PM
The tank filter will unscrew so it cab be checked or repaired...not a big job.
Clarkey


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 16 December, 2021, 08:28:21 PM
Ta, will attempt to get the car out and about..it conks out atm every few hundreds yards..hope it will get the 5 miles or so to my friend Colin !
Might be an RAC job...? not sure where one stands if it sort of starts ...


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 17 December, 2021, 04:40:58 PM
Well , that is pretty clear cut now ! tried to start today , no fuel whatsoever getting into engine/fuel filter at all...at least RAC can transport car when convenient..
Just wondering if I get a good guy, might be able to blast it through there and then... not holding my breath though...
So frustrating , but I still get a real thrill when I look at it.. sad really lol...


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: GG on 17 December, 2021, 06:39:40 PM
corrosion in the tank?


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 17 December, 2021, 11:45:50 PM
well ,could be , must happen I guess.
Whole lot, pipes etc might need a good clear out!


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: nistri on 18 December, 2021, 07:57:34 AM
Corrosion inside the tank is quite likely. Very recently I have seen horrible rot inside the fuel tank of an S1 Fulvia berlina and an S2 Fulvia coupe even when the external surface of the tank was very good and nothing bad had been surmised. This may occur whenever a car is left unused for some time, Andrea


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 18 December, 2021, 06:46:30 PM
yeah , seems a likely scenario ,so frustrating as it is such a wonderful little car !


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 22 December, 2021, 05:46:45 PM
Hi everyone, My friend Colin came over and we , by accident or design , unblocked the fuel pipes. Ran perfectly. Over at Colin's again , he will replace all the fuel pipes, maybe with a larger diameter,and drain the fuel tank , making sure no debris. There was some evidence of degraded rubber ? in some of the fuel collected. Anyway looks like light at the end of the tunnel...
Happy Christmas !


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: lancianut666 on 22 December, 2021, 07:16:00 PM
Great news have a Merry Christmas!
Clarkey


Title: Re: My Appia
Post by: richardlewis on 03 January, 2022, 06:37:17 PM
Happy new year everyone, all fuel lines/pipes renewed, tank drained , car drives like a dream ! In love again ! lol
There wasn't a mesh in the tank , some debris there , but much wider diameter pipe used, so with all that , ought not to ever be a problem again ...
Yippee !