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Title: E10 Fuel
Post by: Foggitt on 26 June, 2021, 07:22:40 AM
There are increasing reports about the introduction of E10 petrol, and its implications for engines.
Can anyone explain what we might need to do to our cars?
Hopefully an additive will be made available, but unlike the change to unleaded petrol,
my understanding of E10 is that it could affect seals & gaskets.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Andrew


Title: Re: E10 Fuel
Post by: mikeC on 26 June, 2021, 07:31:57 AM
There are indeed additives available for ethanol fuel; just search 'ethanol additive for classic cars' and make your choice.


Title: Re: E10 Fuel
Post by: Wangler on 26 June, 2021, 08:31:41 AM
The government website says to use 97 octane (Super unleaded) which will still be available.

“Classic vehicles
Many manufactures of classic cars are not listed in the vehicle checker. Where older brands are no longer trading, we cannot provide specific information on vehicle compatibility.

Owners of vehicles not listed in the vehicle checker should continue to use E5 (97+ octane) petrol, which will remain available in the ‘super’ grade.

For further information, we recommend contacting classic vehicle owners’ clubs and associations, as well as garages that may be able to provide advice.”

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e10-petrol-explained



Title: Re: E10 Fuel
Post by: Dikappa on 26 June, 2021, 01:36:33 PM
there is a very informative little booklet from Paul Ireland: Classic Engines, Modern Fuel.  I think everyone with an interest in this matter should read it.  Not expensive either.


Title: Re: E10 Fuel
Post by: mikeC on 26 June, 2021, 03:30:08 PM
97 octane E5 is fine if you can get it; none of the fuel stations within a fifteen mile radius of here have a 97 octane pump.


Title: Re: E10 Fuel
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 26 June, 2021, 06:56:18 PM
Buy Esso Synergy! Marked as E5, but contains no ethanol. 99 Octane.


Title: Re: E10 Fuel
Post by: GerardJPC on 26 June, 2021, 07:54:25 PM
Another vote for Esso. 

Esso Supreme 99+ is the current branding for its zero ethanol fuel in many parts of the UK (not in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland).

 


Title: Re: E10 Fuel
Post by: Wangler on 03 July, 2021, 08:51:59 PM
Amazing what crops up on YouTube. Their algorithms seem to know more about me than I do!

Anyway, if you want to remove ethanol from “petrol” this appears to be how to do it.

https://youtu.be/b9mLbuUSt-0


Title: E10 Fuel
Post by: rikardo on 15 March, 2022, 06:07:56 PM
With a bit of research I discovered this document which appears to be where the gov.uk information about E10 fuel compatibility has been gathered. Clearly, with respect to us older Lancia owners (thats the cars thank you!), we will all be using E5 for the forseeable future.
The document, it states, covers all makes, so your daily drive, whatever that may be, should be mentioned.
For anyone else out there who also has the Alfa Romeo 1750 TBi engine in their car (eg. my 159 TI), it is compatible with E10, but it is slightly misleadingly referred to as 1.8 TBi.
You will find Alfa Romeo, FIAT and Lancia on page 5 of the document.