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Model Technical and Interest => Flavia => Topic started by: GerardJPC on 12 March, 2021, 05:18:08 PM



Title: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 12 March, 2021, 05:18:08 PM
Today I saw Keith Large's very smart late Beta Spider 2000.  I did this because I was buying Keith's HF Coupe.  I hope that Keith won't mind if I pinch one of his photo.  Some of my own appear later.

This is thought to be the last RHD HF made, and its late 1980s restoration was featured in the LMC in 1990.  The car was also featured in the Martin Buckley Flavia article in Classic and Sports Car in June 2012.

The car needs one rear arch re-doing, and has a few small bubbles and blemishes elsewhere, but it is generally in very presentable order. The interior has a good patina to it and needs little or nothing doing.   The car runs very well.  The brakes have an issue - possibly a duff seal, and some bits and bobs at the front suspension need re-doing, but overall this is a lovely car. The brakes issue make the car unsuited for a long drive, so the car will be low-loadered to my place early next week, where I'll get my mechanic to sort the brakes etc, and then get a bodyshop onto the arch etc.

I have owned many, many classic cars, from a very basic Pug 205 to a Daimler Sovereign and Jensen Interceptor, and various heaps in between, but this Lancia is I think the classiest motor that I have ever owned.  It's a proper grown up grand tourer.

Sadly, this purchase means that I will sell my Beta, but I hope that an LMC member might buy it.  

Many thanks Keith for being such a gentleman.  I will cherish this car!


(https://i.ibb.co/VJ2JhzV/009-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jm5mbGn)









Title: Re: 1974 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: frankxhv773t on 12 March, 2021, 07:58:08 PM
Well done. I love the 2000 HF Coupe. When I think back to doodling cars in the back of my school exercise book back in the late 60s that's the shape I was drawing. I too would jump at the opportunity if one came my way. Good luck selling the Beta, it shouldn't be hard to find a new home for such a gem.


Title: Re: 1974 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: Andrew Parker on 12 March, 2021, 09:40:29 PM
I do covet these, a proper gentleman's motorcar.

A bit like a Ferrari 250GTE but better looking and a fraction of the cost

Andrew


Title: Re: 1974 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 13 March, 2021, 05:32:01 AM
The general air of quality that the car exudes does make it comparable to refined grand tourers from Ferrari and Maserati back when those marques were still classy and not bling.  The only car that I have had owned that is comparable is a Jensen Interceptor, and I have to say that although I love Interceptors they are bitsers with a relatively crude American engine and gearbox, and some naff build quality elements such as very visible exposed screw heads in the cabin (the HF has some but less visible).  Also, an Interceptor with its huge lazy V8 and three speed slushbox can't cruise at 30 mpg plus as a five speed four cylinder Lancia can.  I did a grand tour to the Abruzzo and back in an Interceptor and almost caused a market run on petroleum futures.

Anyway, the Lancia's left rear wheel arch is mucho crusty.   Research here suggested that Austin 1100 arches might fit, but then.... eBay Italia YOU BEAUTY.

Brand new entire wing.  I clicked "Compralo Subito" so hard that I punched a hole in my keyboard.  

(https://i.ibb.co/Mc3ZyTg/wing.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n756q2w)


Title: Re: 1974 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 13 March, 2021, 08:46:02 AM
Serendipity?  There is a complete body shell at a scrapper in Wigan.  I will go and have a prod at it.


Title: Re: 1974 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: Jai Sharma on 13 March, 2021, 09:23:09 AM
Congratulations, that looks lovely


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 14 March, 2021, 05:38:14 PM
CORRECTION:  This car was first registered in 1975, not 1974.  

The history file for this car is very good, subject to two large chronological gaps.  It includes the original order form, the original sale invoice, many MOTs, many bills, and various letters.

Factoid:  three of the car's eight non-dealer owners have been called Alan!

The car was manufactured in September 1973.   It is one of the last twenty five built and may be the last RHD version.  

The car was sold in February 1975 to a partner in Price Waterhouse Coper who lived in Belgravia and had a house near Inverness.  This was his second Lancia Coupe.  The car was Rosso Scuro (mis typed Rosso Escuro on the order form) with grey cloth.  Options specified were inertia reel seat belts, a Radiomobile and speakers, and an electric aerial.  The price new was £3255.    The supplying dealer was Lancia, Audi, Mercedes, and BMW dealer Waterloo Carriage (London) Limited, which was in business from 1964 to 1996.

The first owner exchanged letters with Lancia in May 1975 complaining that parts were not available - he wanted a torsion bar, a plug for an electric window, and a CR reverse switch.  The parts were in short supply but a note on the letter shows that they arrived in June 1975.

The car was sold in June 1982 to a chap with a Bloomsbury address for £1500, via a London dealer called Lanciana.  The PWC chap replaced the car with a Gamma Coupe LHV 80X.  

The second owner traded the HF for a new Montecarlo EJV 669Y, with Lancia dealer David Short (Motors) in Cleethorpes in May 1982.  The dealer gave £800 as the PX price, and sold the car to its third owner (price unknown).  

The same dealer sold the car again in September 1986 for £550.   The fourth owner, who lived in Grimsby and posts on the Beta Forum as rossocorsa, corresponded with the first owner about the car, and with Pininfarina in Italy about build numbers.   He gave the car a very thorough restoration in the late 1980s.  This was covered in the LMC journal.  

During the restoration the car was repainted and was trimmed in beige cloth.   It appears that a donor car, HEY 920N, was bought for £350 from a bloke in Warrington as part of the project.

The restored car was sold to its fifth owner, a Dublin Lancia enthusiast, in 2005, it seems for only £850 "as seen for restoration", and went to Ireland as ZV 7848. The car might have had another full or partial restoration after 2005.  The car appeared in Classic and Sports Car in June 2012.  

The car came back to the UK in August 2015, bought by a dealer in Hereford, who counts as the sixth owner because he had the car for a while and had some work done on it including some welding.  The dealer had the car re-registered as HJD 208N, and sold it in January 2016 for £12,500 to an LMC member in Bristol.

The seventh owner had various work done on the car including a front suspension rebuild, some work on the ignition and fuel system, a wheel refurb and a new set of Firestones which the car still has on.  

The car was sold again to its eighth owner, another LMC member, in 2017, had a few more bits and bobs done, and was sold again to me, the ninth owner, last Friday.

The file shows that the car has in general been well maintained by its owners and has had lots of new parts over the years.  It seems from the tyre bills always to have had decent tyres on it.

My plan is to attend to the rusty arch and other smaller rust spots, give the car a gentle machine polish, perhaps paint the control stalks which are a tad mottled, and sort out the (I hope) minor mechanical issues.  I will then use the car as much as I can.  


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: frankxhv773t on 14 March, 2021, 07:50:16 PM
Journeying from Belgravia to ones second home in Inverness is what a great Lancia is all about. A Flaminia I broke for spares had been used for weekly commuting from Suffolk to Faslane by a naval officer who had previously driven it on leave to and from his posting as naval attaché in Cairo!


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 15 March, 2021, 02:30:35 AM
Yes, just the thing!   The Cairo commute is epic.   Una carozzera di gentiluomo and all that.  I'm no gentleman, and Kennington and Oxfordshire are not quite Belgravia and Inverness-Shire (or Cairo), but there we are.

A few corrections and additions to the history above.

The car was supplied with static seat belts even though inertia reels had initially been specified (it has inertia reels front and back now).  The car had electric windows as standard but these must have been changed to wind up windows during the late 80s restoration.

The DVLA was notified of a change of colour to "maroon/beige" in late 1986.  When the car changed hands in that year it had already been painted so as to have a maroon roof and a cream body with maroon stripes along the sides.  That look did not suit the car!

Other photos show the car in a light caramel beige colour overall - this may have been undercoat.  The bills show a retrim in 1988 and a respray in 1989.

There are many bills for the period 1986 to 1996 but the bills stop in 1996 and the MOTs stop in 1997.   The SORN system started in 1998 and there is a SORN for 2004.   It seems that the car was off the road from about 1997/98 to 2005.

There are no bills for the ten year period in Ireland - its then owner looked after the car himself.  Bills resume in late 2015 and there are MOTs from 2015 and 2016.  The car failed its last MOT in 2017 (on fairly minor matters).  I aim for the car to have an (optional) MOT again later this year.

MOT history is as follows -

1978 to 1981 MISSING
Oct 1981 mileage 35263
1982 missing
(a file note from the second owner indicates that the car was used at that time for long business trips and a trip to the Loire)
Aug 1983    47165
Aug 1984    49567
July 1985    55431
Sep 1986    60122
1987-88      off road for repairs
March 1989 60497
March 1990 64566
April 1991   69581
May 1992    73123
July 1993    75313
1994           maybe off road
April 1995   77643
May 1996    80220
July 1997    81082
No MOT certs 1998 to 2003.
SORN August 2004

Mileage on registration in Ireland 83194
Ireland 2005 to 2015.  The car is reported to have been driven to Italy and back during this time.  

MOT November 2015 102670 (so car driven approx 2000 miles a year while in Ireland).
MOT December 2016 104218
MOT Failure Notice in December 2017 at 106117 miles.  The current mileage is approx 107640.

I aim to drive this car to France and maybe to Italy this year or next, although the lack of air conditioning might put me off.  We are such wimps compared to the GT drivers of the 60s and 70s!


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 15 March, 2021, 07:50:04 AM
Not in the file, but sent to me by email, is the 1990 article from the LMC Journal which describes the restoration in 1987-8.

The car had, prior to 1986, been in at least one accident that smashed up one rear wing.  The car had been painted black.  The dealership in Cleethorpes had done the maroon/cream paint scheme.  The fourth owner had the car repainted in Rosso Scuro.     I hope that the fourth owner will not mind me putting these photos up - they came with the car.  I will take them down if he objects.  

Since the resto the car has lost the stripes along the lower part of the flanks.  Those stripes are, however, present on the diecast model of the car in this colour that i have just bought from eBay.  I think that a thin grey or maybe gold stripe along the mid line of the car might look good.  There are some gold Cromodoras on sale in Italy but they would be too bling!


(https://i.ibb.co/4ZGsdnB/2000-preresto.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qMf053b)



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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: chriswgawne on 15 March, 2021, 03:55:26 PM
Talking of long distance commuting, the early aluminium Fulvia Sport OPD23E we owned (twice!) was bought new by the first owner from the factory to commute from Rome to Shepperton. He worked between the Dino de Laurentis Film Studios just outside Rome and Shepperton Film Studios. The car had Imperial instruments from new but of course was lhd. Apparently it was superb cruising at 130/140kph, very quiet and economical. We were the 2nd (and 4th) owners.
I believe the car is now on the Continent, possibly in Belgium.
Chris


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 15 March, 2021, 06:25:15 PM
The 60s and early 70s reviews of Lancias tend to write breezily of effortless all day cruising at 100 mph.  Not so easy to do these days (although what may, allegedly, have occurred on some deserted and camera-free bits of dual carriageways when I used my boring but fast modern car for (legal) visits to my school age daughter during the first lockdown last spring is, er , just alleged, er...).   


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 16 March, 2021, 12:04:06 PM
Many thanks to the car's seventh owner for filling in some gaps in the history and providing the info to correct some errors above.

 


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: DavidLaver on 17 March, 2021, 12:18:57 PM


Am greatly looking forward to the saga and adventures.  Low loader due to brake issues...its almost as if you recently suffered a complete brake failure in a classic Lancia and didn't want to repeat the experience...

In time, when it starts to limit the use, am sure "lack of air conditioning" could be addressed.  The obvious solution to do the first few (!!!) Italian trips in cooler weather.  Another thought is:

https://www.thetrimmingcentre.co.uk/tudor-webasto

Talking of cooler runs to the continent, a Flavia has a lever under the bonnet to limit steering lock when snow chains are fitted.  Was that carried forward to the 2000?


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 17 March, 2021, 10:55:34 PM
Thanks!  Will have to check re snow chains

A few pics


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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 17 March, 2021, 11:03:37 PM
Note incorrect Lancia badge on bonnet.  The correct HF badges are both present.  I wonder why on this type the HF badge has no elephants.  Wim Oud  Weernink, whom I am coming to think is a little bit overrated as a Lancia guru, incorrectly calls the HF badge an ie badge in his book on Fulvias, Flavias, and 2000s.    His book on Appias is very good, but I am not quite as impressed by La Lancia or by the Fulvia/Flavia/2000 book.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 17 March, 2021, 11:09:51 PM
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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 18 March, 2021, 03:31:30 PM
My mechanic likes the car.   He is impressed by the engineering and build quality.  The bodywork issues are fixable.   The car is very complete and appears always to have been well maintained.  The mech is still working on the car and has has not yet discovered what is wrong with the brakes, but has discovered that the steering idler arm needs a repair - lots of play in it at the moment and the car noses to the left when you lift off the throttle.  Repair kit ordered.

We both love the design detail like the clever "keep the rear window clear" airflow thing at the back end of the roof, and the lovely door open warning red lights (only one of which is working, but it is the offside one).



Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 18 March, 2021, 03:56:54 PM
Ah ha: the rear brakes are a bit fottato, and so is the hand brake.  Needs a special tool to to get the hubs off,  apparently.  I will ask the Consortium and Omicron and what not. 


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: lancialulu on 18 March, 2021, 04:47:56 PM
Ah ha: the rear brakes are a bit fottato, and so is the hand brake.  Needs a special tool to to get the hubs off,  apparently.  I will ask the Consortium and Omicron and what not. 
Don't forget the club hires out special tools too.... Tim PS nice 2000HF


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 18 March, 2021, 05:30:32 PM
Fab, thanks, will check the magazine to see whom to ask about tools.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: Neil on 18 March, 2021, 09:29:41 PM
Ask Tim!


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: Jai Sharma on 19 March, 2021, 07:43:59 AM
At least on the Fulvia some of the hub nuts had three slots and some six so might be worth establishing that so Tim can sort the right tool.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 19 March, 2021, 05:09:55 PM
Thanks!

Three slots on the inner for the handbrake drum.  Bearing tool not needed at this stage as wheel bearings seem OK.  So, a three slot rear hub tool needed, I think.  I will contact Tim.   I will enquire of the Consortium (I've just joined it ) about hub nuts.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: Jai Sharma on 19 March, 2021, 09:59:10 PM
I have in the past re used the hub nuts but a new one won’t do any harm of course.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 21 March, 2021, 03:27:45 PM
Panel -


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Engine bay.  The exhausts have been flattened off by speed bumps near where they exit the engine.


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Front hub, and bits of suspension and subframe.  


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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 28 March, 2021, 07:25:14 PM
The fourth owner, who restored the car, has provided some helpful extra details via another forum.    The cloth interior was never grey.  The sales form contained an error.  The rear seat may be original.  The front seats, door panels and headlining were redone in 1989.  The car may have been painted whilst in Ireland and possibly again since then.  The fourth owner made some mods to the front arches to improve rust protection.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 28 March, 2021, 07:39:24 PM
Here is the car waiting for some bits.

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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 09 April, 2021, 08:18:38 PM
OK, it is after 9PM, but if you are of a sensitive disposition, look away now.

Here is the horror of the rusty arch, before and after a temporary repair with filler.

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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 09 April, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Steering fixing in progress.

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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: lancialulu on 09 April, 2021, 09:20:11 PM
Probably a bit late now but the better fix is with bronze bushes and a grease nipple


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 10 April, 2021, 06:04:53 AM
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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 10 April, 2021, 06:21:35 AM
New bushes in (thanks to Dietmar at Historic Racing in Hamburg for sending these so quickly), new grease in, and steering idler arm put back together -


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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: lancianut666 on 10 April, 2021, 07:57:25 AM
Hi Gerard
Did you do the idler repairs? or did you supervise Mark...Car looks great. I love the description of the fuel injected car's engines as looking like the insides of a washing machine dumped under the bonnet.
Clarkey


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 10 April, 2021, 09:28:02 AM
If I tried to supervise any mechanic, comedy would ensue.   I've known Mark for several years and he is by a long way the best car mechanic I have ever met.  So far, no old car can defeat him, despite all of their evil attempts to do so.  He has tamed recaciltrant BL cars, Land Rovers, assorted Italiana, and even motorbikes.  As for me, I barely know which end of a screwdriver you are supposed to hold!  I was in court while all that spannering was happening.  Horses for courses!


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 10 April, 2021, 09:51:59 AM
Mark is very much opposed to bodging, and whenever I buy an old car he spends time undoing the bodges put in by previous owners, but I persuaded him to do a decent bodge fix on the wheel arch until I get done it done properly, so at least the car is fit to be seen in public. 

On bodging in general, my late father was a production engineer in the car industry, and a practical man who could fix things such as cars and houses, and he said that while a botch is bad, a working bodge can sometimes be OK in some circumstances.  He had many tales of how the worn out tooling of BL production lines in the 1970s led to all sort of factory work arounds to get cars to the dealers - to be fixed on some other balance sheet.   

Mark tends to deplore the way that my Fiat 124 (currently away being welded) has been kept going by bodges by blokes in sheds for many, many years, but ... it is still alive, when almost all other third series RHD Coupes have died.  My Appia when it arrived was a strange combo of bodge and neglect, but mostly neglect.  My Beta is almost bodge-free - it's just old, but it has low miles and is in many ways quite original.  The HF shows little sign of any bodge work in the past, but has done over 100,000 miles so naturally has some tired bits.   


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: lancianut666 on 10 April, 2021, 10:50:41 AM
You are lucky to find someone like Mark as my experience of mechanics is they can only work on modern cars as some don't know how to set up the points on cars like ours not their fault. Motor factors are the same my local one promised me a rummage through their NOS of contact points but the next time I went in they had been skipped.
Clarkey


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 10 April, 2021, 12:54:49 PM
Mark can do modern cars but he prefers to work on old ones.  He has specialist knowledge of classic Minis and of TVRs (He has a TVR), but  he is in my view a very good all round mechanic who understands how 60s and 70s cars work and what they may need.  When he does not know about something he takes the trouble to find out about it.  He is very good at fault-finding and has the patience and skill to find and fix stubborn faults.  His main interest is in working with carburation and ignition settings.   He says that if anyone is looking for work on carbs or ignition on their Lancias he'd be interested in helping.  He is a bit too busy to take on much new general work other than that.   He is based in Worcestershire but travels.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: bobhenry999 on 10 April, 2021, 03:19:48 PM
Talking of bodges, back in 1984 I was on my way to a good friends wedding in my 2000 Coupe and the throttle cable snapped. Fortunately the friend who was traveling with me hadn’t yet wrapped his present to the lucky couple and had a roll of sellotape with him which we used to repair the cable.
It got me the 120 mile journey home and was still functioning perfectly there weeks later when I eventually replaced it !

Bob


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 14 April, 2021, 06:52:50 AM
Ah ha!  Trottle cables.  More below...


Several steps forward, and one step backwards.


Yesterday I drove the car for the first time since a short test drive before I bought it.   The engine and gearing combo are really interesting, and the car has lovely handling.

The car is generally driving well but still has a softish brake pedal.   New rear discs and pads and some work on the rear calipers are on the list.

A change of oil and filter did not reveal any worrying signs of metal in the oil.  The car also has fresh brake fluid and is getting fresh coolant.

The mounting for the handbrake lever had sheered off its baseplate - a previous weld having failed.  The original fracture to the mounting may have been caused by overload deriving from a dodgy cable.  The mounting has now been welded back on to the plate, but a new cable will be fitted when I get one.

This morning the throttle spring or linkage failed or jammed, which made me unpopular with my neighbours as I started the car at about 7am.  The pedal collapsed to the floor and the engine roared wildly before I quickly switched it off.  I had been about to go off quietly,
let the car warm up in a secluded spot down the road, and then go looking for the wiper blade that flew off the car into a hedge whilst I drove back from the fuel station last night.  Lancias, eh?

EDIT:  the throttle cable has snapped off by the eyelet that connects it at the pedal end.  The aviating wiper blade was found in a lane close to home.

Pictures from a brief visit to a local pub and a nocturnal trip to get some ethanol free petrol.  The car now has period style numberplates.

(https://i.ibb.co/T1DNwK4/pub.png) (https://ibb.co/pQ6k1Wf)

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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 14 April, 2021, 07:01:08 AM
Ambience -



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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 15 April, 2021, 05:08:21 AM
New throttle cable located on eBay Italia - yay internet!


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: Jai Sharma on 15 April, 2021, 06:46:36 AM
You are probably already aware and or it may have been covered but if you need to replace the handbrake cable then if it is the same as a Fulvia (insider the disc/hub) you will need to use the hub tool previously discussed to remove the rear hubs. It would make sense to do any work to the rear callipers then as they have to come off anyway to get to the handbrake mechanism


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: lancianut666 on 15 April, 2021, 06:48:37 AM
Wise words


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 15 April, 2021, 07:45:13 AM
Thanks!  The Consortium is kindly sending the hub tool, so hopefully the brake work can be done next week.  Mark the mobile mechanic is here today but doing Appia and Beta stuff.

Here are some photos of the car reflecting on its bad behaviour in waking up the neighbours.   Also a shot showing that the front seats have stood up well since they were re-covered in 1989, but now show one small split on the driver's side.


(https://i.ibb.co/MCQCd4p/hfside.png) (https://ibb.co/S3G3S80)

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Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 15 April, 2021, 10:51:23 AM
BODGE ALERT!

The throttle cable is intact.  I was misled on a quick shuftie by a frayed bit of cable end hanging off at the top.  Someone has fitted a second eyelet to space the cable end. The issue was an old bodge: some fuel pipe that had been used as a cable guide had jammed under the pedal linkage.

QUESTION:  Would you expect to see flex in the brake servo?    Mark is adding a brace for this as it moves a bit, with play at the bulkhead end, and this motion won't help the braking efficiency, and could eventually cause a stress fracture at the bulkhead.  Mark will also investigate whether there is already weakness at the bulkhead.  He notes that the bits of the bulkhead he has seen so far look OK, and notes also that the sills have been welded very well.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 16 April, 2021, 12:41:34 PM
2021 is dull.  I did some time travel to April 1975.


(https://i.ibb.co/Bw9dZSy/hfpub.png) (https://ibb.co/nRFZc57)



Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 17 April, 2021, 09:57:56 AM
Early morning driving in the West End.  The vertical alignment of second (up), and third (down) is useful for relaxed town driving.

I paused for photos outside the RAC, and also at Bar Italia in Soho.  "Guarda Toni!  Vera macchina Italiana!  Di Torino come la tua Mama."



(https://i.ibb.co/kqX8RQR/italia.png) (https://ibb.co/j3DMcgc)


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 30 April, 2021, 06:25:39 AM
The HF now has new rear brake discs and pads.  The car is going well, and this weekend I will take it on its first long distance jaunt - about 400 miles on a round trip to visit my daughter in Norfolk.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 01 May, 2021, 03:10:40 PM
A nail did for one of the Firestones on the A4 close to Earl's Court this morning.  The spare was brand new, so on it went, and the car behaved itself on a drive to the North Norfolk coast.  Busy roads all the way.

(https://i.ibb.co/CJ0B2gR/flat.png) (https://ibb.co/LQpS5mV)


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 12 May, 2021, 02:15:44 PM
Some weak spark issues, and a slight cooling issue, both now fixed.  The car is going pretty well.   Wheel balancing has removed vibrations that were occurring at motorway speeds.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 12 May, 2021, 11:05:39 PM
A bit of 70s going on in South Oxfordshire.  This Volvo 1800 ES Automatic is in rough condition but it runs.  The boot is full of tools and parts and the car is evidently a labour of love in progress.  I have seen a near-concours red one of these in the local area recently.


(https://i.ibb.co/WBZRZ5C/volvo1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h2bTb90)

(https://i.ibb.co/k2Z1WXr/Volvo2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7th46KT)







Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 27 May, 2021, 03:02:32 PM
Somer is icumen in...



(https://i.ibb.co/PtTkktf/HFsun.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M98dd93)



Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 02 June, 2021, 06:47:35 AM
In Town -

(https://i.ibb.co/wMkWHjH/HFIWM.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KFPqZSZ)



Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: DavidLaver on 03 June, 2021, 04:01:17 PM

Good to see it out and about.  Much left on the "to do" or "wish" list still?


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 04 June, 2021, 06:39:22 AM
The main thing is the replacement of the offside rear wheel arch, and repairs to apparently less extensive rusty bits in the front wings, to be followed by a full or partial respray.

The car is using a bit of oil and puffs a bit of blue smoke every now and then, so it might be needing some top end work soon.

Yesterday the car drove to Southampton and back to view a new (old) car purchase - a 1977 Princess 2200 HL.    Lancia, Lotus, Land Rover, Leyland - those are my things! 


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: frankxhv773t on 04 June, 2021, 12:52:33 PM
That's an "L" of a list. A Princess 2200 is very left field. You'll have to compare notes with Mr Buckley and his Austin 3 Litre passion.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: lancialulu on 04 June, 2021, 01:59:15 PM
My Dad had a 2200 which as a family we never really rated but it was a reliable work horse.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 05 June, 2021, 02:19:29 PM
My father was a Production Engineer in British Leyland, and thus BL cars are very much wired into my system.  I have had various Triumphs, Landies, and a couple of Rovers.  My dad's favourite car was his Princess.  He had it from 1979 to 1983, and in it he drove me to my university interviews in December 1980, collected me a couple of days later (on the journey home we heard the news of John Lennon's death), and - the interviews having gone well - he drove me to university in the Princess in October 1981.

When I got the newly purchased Princess home yesterday after a smooooooooooth journey from Southampton to South Oxfordshire, my 83 year old mum shed a tear when she saw me getting out of the car.  She said that she had seen a ghost.  I gave her a hug and we had a drink in memory of my dad.  Now I have to decide whether when I take my mum to Glyndebourne on Wednesday we go in the HF or in the Princess.

(https://i.ibb.co/WzVJdr4/princess.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jwJXxCP)

 


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: Derek Creasy on 05 June, 2021, 06:31:59 PM
Been there done that ---transformed the steering


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 06 June, 2021, 07:25:18 AM
Erm...., is that post perhaps a stray from another thread?


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 10 June, 2021, 10:27:48 AM
The coolest car at Glyndebourne yesterday (with my mum, my nephew, and his girlfriend to see Rossini's Il Turco in Italia, which was done with a 1950s Italian neo-realist theme, Fiat 500s included).


(https://i.ibb.co/w4qCp1c/HFglynde.png) (https://ibb.co/gJ8wtC4)


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: CesareFerrari on 10 June, 2021, 12:25:27 PM

How comfortable was the rear seat for your passengers, may I ask?
Cesare


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 10 June, 2021, 12:50:38 PM
They said that it was fine.  They may have been fibbing, of course!

The car was not super lively with four people and picnic stuff on board.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 13 June, 2021, 01:24:50 PM
Livelier two up.  Another trip to the opera, and overnight in East Sussex.



(https://i.ibb.co/2KjSxFJ/hfhotel.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ryZ3YQ9)


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: frankxhv773t on 13 June, 2021, 07:05:39 PM
It's in danger of becoming known as the "Opera Coupe".


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 13 June, 2021, 07:28:05 PM
Colour's right -

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7100/1333/1600/Seville-Opera-Coupe-1-41.jpg)


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 17 June, 2021, 04:35:11 PM
Plentiful driving over the last few months have taken their toll: one small engine oil leak, one power steering fluid leak, and two coolant leaks.  All should be easy fixes, but the HF now gets a rest in the barn whilst my Beta takes the strain. 


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: grandespud on 18 June, 2021, 10:04:56 AM
My father was a Production Engineer in British Leyland, and thus BL cars are very much wired into my system.  I have had various Triumphs, Landies, and a couple of Rovers.  My dad's favourite car was his Princess.  He had it from 1979 to 1983, and in it he drove me to my university interviews in December 1980, collected me a couple of days later (on the journey home we heard the news of John Lennon's death), and - the interviews having gone well - he drove me to university in the Princess in October 1981.

When I got the newly purchased Princess home yesterday after a smooooooooooth journey from Southampton to South Oxfordshire, my 83 year old mum shed a tear when she saw me getting out of the car.  She said that she had seen a ghost.  I gave her a hug and we had a drink in memory of my dad.  Now I have to decide whether when I take my mum to Glyndebourne on Wednesday we go in the HF or in the Princess.

(https://i.ibb.co/WzVJdr4/princess.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jwJXxCP)

 

That's a lovely looking car. I always liked the design of the princess and think it's under-rated. Although from memory, the ones I used to see in the flesh often looked too high on the rear suspension for some reason. Any more pics of your new purchase please?



Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 18 June, 2021, 02:32:30 PM
I am delighted with the Princess, which is a smooth and wafty drive.  The high gearing means that even though it lacks a fifth gear it cruises quietly at 80 on the motorway.  Unlike the Allegro, which was ruined when being industrialised, Harris Mann's design for the Princess was industrialised with few changes, although BL made the mistake of not including the hatchback that Mann had drawn for the car.

Here are some pictures.

(https://i.ibb.co/ryppk3L/wedge.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6sttY8p)


(https://i.ibb.co/5x4GzWC/princessshed.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zHxQLhC)


(https://i.ibb.co/3F82ykc/princessint1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zgw56Nx)


(https://i.ibb.co/YfJC60D/princesseng.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zPCM168)


(https://i.ibb.co/LkJVSd6/princessyard.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w0w5yhC)

 


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 05 July, 2021, 07:18:23 AM
At a local car show with my brother's TR7.

(https://i.ibb.co/4WvHV6c/hftr.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PxXd67R)


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: frankxhv773t on 05 July, 2021, 10:22:19 AM
The lack of a tailgate is an interesting point. We take a tailgate for granted these days but I recall in the mid eighties opinion was divided in the case of executive cars, specifically the Ford Granada Mk 3 or Scorpio. The argument was that the "executive" in the back seat should remain cossetted while his driver put the suit cases in the boot. The same issue notably applies to the Gamma Berlina.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 05 July, 2021, 03:10:05 PM
Rover boldly chose a hatchback for the SD1, which has an enormous load carrying capacity.


Title: Re: 1975 2000 HF Coupe
Post by: GerardJPC on 19 July, 2021, 06:36:58 AM
Talking of load carrying, holiday time -

(https://i.ibb.co/tHfyWkm/gran-turismo.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x2vVRPC)