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Model Technical and Interest => Appia => Topic started by: simonandjuliet on 08 March, 2019, 06:38:06 PM



Title: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: simonandjuliet on 08 March, 2019, 06:38:06 PM
The camioncino has arrived !

The transporter was too big to get through the village so the camioncino was unloaded at the edge of the village and I towed it home with the tractor.

No brakes so you can see me carrying the means of stopping her !

Bit of work to do ........



Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: stanley sweet on 08 March, 2019, 06:56:33 PM
That's a nice addition to the fleet. Looks pretty good in the photos. Is there a lot to do? How are you going to get a 3RO through the village because you know it's only a matter of time....


Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: Cassino on 09 March, 2019, 10:32:35 AM
She looks in great condition......Have I missed the history of this one?......

Ian


Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: simonandjuliet on 09 March, 2019, 08:59:14 PM
The shiny paint hides a lot ! There is a fair amount to do, but the plan is to do floors , cills , brakes and engine and then see what happens ....

Quite a rare photo opportunity, a camioncino and furgoncino side by side - I had to move the furgoncino out of the garage to put the camioncino on the ramp - Not quite sure where I can put the legs to lift it though !

 



Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: simonandjuliet on 17 March, 2019, 02:05:21 PM
Quick update on this one.

I want to get the car running and at least stopping with the handbrake so I can move it around, so this week I have been trying to start the engine after 22 years of dormancy

The engine was not blocked, had clean oil (!) but no electricity

First job was remove and rebuild the starter motor, diesel down the bores because very low compressions and then a carb clean/rebuild

I by-passed all the electrics, cleaned the points and rest of the ignition and set up jump leads to the starter motor, with a separate lead to the front of the car to engage the solenoid. I also fitted a new petrol pump and new pipes, so no risk of crud from the tank.

Over the course of several days, each time establishing that the next bit worked, I took the heated plugs out of the oven, poured petrol down the carb, fitted a fresh battery and then after about 20 secs of cranking she started ......

I had had a few ignitions before, but she now ran for 30 secs - no more because no water in the engine yet - v good oil pressure and no rattles or nasty noises. Far better than expected !

After that I dismantled all the brakes so that she doesn't bind and can be moved more easily. Next is to check clutch/gearbox and steering etc


Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: chriswgawne on 17 March, 2019, 04:34:21 PM
Brilliant! Bit of a result there Simon.
I have been dealing with dodgy NGK plugs again, this time in our B12.
 This is the 3rd time in the last 5 years that new NGK BP6ES plugs have been found to be faulty. Very frustrating but there are all out of a batch I bought some years ago.
Chris


Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: Jaydub on 17 March, 2019, 05:01:03 PM
Great stuff Simon. I`m with you on the heated spark plugs, it certainly helps to ignite the mixture and partially prevent flooding.

Chris:- I recall NGK  having some issues with bad plugs a few years ago as well, but they are have been ok the last few years as far as I know.


Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: simonandjuliet on 17 March, 2019, 06:31:47 PM
Chris, I think the rest of them need to go in the bin (or put them on eBay !!)

Update on the Appia, filled with water and ran for 20 mins, so getting there slowly


Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: Cassino on 18 March, 2019, 11:20:56 AM
Well, thats a result.....well done.
Not tempted by a pump with priming lever?......to overcome the drain back issue.

Ian


Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: simonandjuliet on 30 March, 2019, 10:20:13 AM
Having started and run the engine, I have now stripped and removed all the brakes so she will move easily, plus i have taken the engine, 'box and prop out so I can start on the welding

Plan is to remove the front wings and doors, then tip it on its side and start the welding. Once I've done the worst bits, I can give her to Dog to make everything look pretty


Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: simonandjuliet on 07 May, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
Some progress here

Firstly a couple of scary photos of what I found when I took the doors and wings off - not unexpected and I can deal with most of it with a bit of time and thought.

The "A" posts are pretty shot at their base so I will have to make these carefully and in sections - I can't make complex curves, although I have also acquired a shrinker/stretcher for some sections

The floors and inner cills are very tatty, but floors are available (we made them for the Appia Consortium a couple of years ago) and much of the inner cill is flat metal .I bought a 1m metal folder to help with that

Plan is to replace floors, cills and A posts before turning on its side to tidy up underneath

Using a mix of gas, gasless MIG and inverter depending on the thickness of metal

Maybe do some more tomorrow if the rains arrive !





Title: Re: Appia Camioncino - new arrival
Post by: DavidLaver on 07 May, 2019, 11:33:03 PM

When I saw Simon recently I discovered that folder is about a third the price I expected.  A few on ebay, but for example:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/283278025579?_trksid=p11010.c100415.m3733&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160928092414%26meid%3D8895273c6adf40eb971d6827e7772389%26pid%3D100415%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26b%3D1%26sd%3D273807730304%26itm%3D283278025579&ul_noapp=true