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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: lsdiff on 30 March, 2018, 10:21:18 AM



Title: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 30 March, 2018, 10:21:18 AM
Hi
As a new member, I thought I'd post a couple of pics at the start of my restoration project. That way, I can look back on it in 10 or 20 years time and realise how little I've accomplished.
The car is an S1 1.3S that I bought in South Africa while on holiday a few years ago. I drove it for a bit while over there and it was great fun, if a little rough around the edges. It's now been sitting for a couple of years over here. I have been busy with other projects so only start it up and move it occasionally, but I had planned to address the minor issues that are required for an MOT (mostly electrics, brakes binding etc) and use it over the coming summer. However I'm not very good at half-jobs so as soon as I started taking things apart I decided that a full nut and bolt restoration was in order. The car seems pretty straight and solid for a 50-year old, but has a few patches of rot in the floors and sills. I suspect more might reveal themselves once the car is down to bare metal.
The plan is to build it into a fast (relatively) road car, with minor performance upgrades to brakes, suspension and engine. If anyone is interested, I'll update as I go and I'm sure I'll be asking lots of questions.
Cheers
Terence


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: Parisien on 30 March, 2018, 10:56:04 AM
Welcome again to the forum Terence, the Fulvia is a very popular model on the forum, lots of members have plenty of knowledge and experience in looking after and restoring same.

I'm also currently restoring a Lancia, so your jest that looking back in 10-20 years time won't seem as funny in 10-20 years time, ie mine has been stuck with my body/paint guy for 4 plus years!!!

Good luck with the project, do put up lots of photos and keep us all riveted to the Fulvia section!


P


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 30 March, 2018, 12:14:26 PM
Thanks Parisien.
This will be my first Lancia so I expect quite a steep learning curve.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: Dilambdaman on 30 March, 2018, 03:32:30 PM
Hi Terence, Welcome to the forum, and yes, post away on your restoration. I can testify to the value of the forum if only to keep the enthusiasm up when the going gets tough (and it will!) during a restoration. You'll be amazed at the expertise available on here and the encouragement you'll get.

It might help (or possibly not!) to have a look at this thread http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5820.0

Good luck,
Robin.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: Richard Fridd on 30 March, 2018, 04:33:35 PM
Good stuff. What is the top left component in photo 3?


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: Neil on 30 March, 2018, 06:06:20 PM
Looks like an oil bath type of air filter, most South African Fulvias seem to have those fitted


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 30 March, 2018, 10:40:33 PM
@Robin - thanks for the link to the Fanalone thread. It should be good for some inspiration.
@Richard and Neil - it is indeed an oil bath filter used as an alternative to a paper filter in dusty climates.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: stanley sweet on 01 April, 2018, 06:05:48 PM
Will you be removing that in your plans for the engine?


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 02 April, 2018, 11:38:59 PM
Probably. I haven't really planned much but suspect I'll swap for trumpets or performance air filter set up.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 17 February, 2019, 02:30:45 PM
I said it might take a while. Now ready for media blasting.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: chriswgawne on 17 February, 2019, 03:39:20 PM
I am interested to see how much corrosion you uncover as folklore seems to suggest that South African assembled cars will have less corrosion than Italian built cars.
However my experience as an observer is that ex-SA cars can be just a rusty as European ones....and occasionally worse because some bodyshells were left lying around outside before being built up. And then there is the issue of the condition of the roads.
I have seen quite a few old cars being advertised in the UK as being ex-SA with the inference that they are worth a premium because of this.
Your car looks nice and straight and you are certainly approaching its restoration correctly.
Chris


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 17 February, 2019, 04:15:31 PM
Hi Chris
From the looks of it the car is pretty solid, but I guess until it's down to bare metal it's hard to tell. I know there is a bit of rust in the cills and a hole in the drivers' side floor, but otherwise it seems pretty good.
I've had a few ex-SA cars and I would say they have all been better preserved than the average UK car. It does depend where the cars come from. Coastal cars don't tend to do so well. I'm not sure what impact the condition of the roads would have although the fact that they never see salt is definitely a big plus.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 15 April, 2019, 10:32:58 PM
Got the car back from media blasting on the weekend, and it's not too bad. Some evidence of previous knocks and some rust in the expected areas, but overall I'm quite pleased with how well it's held up over 50 years.





Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: stanley sweet on 16 April, 2019, 04:07:16 PM
Apart from the obvious there appears to be a lot of good metal there. You must be pleased.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 18 April, 2019, 01:04:29 PM
Cheers. I am indeed. I'll probably do a mix of repair and replace. Anyone have any recommendations for replacement panels?


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: DavidLaver on 18 April, 2019, 01:27:50 PM

This might be your first Lancia but I'm guessing this isn't your first restoration.  I like the skate its on with the casters inset so you can still put it up on the lift. 


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: davidwheeler on 30 April, 2019, 08:50:03 AM
I think Omicron have some panels.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: will on 30 April, 2019, 10:00:47 AM
There are number companies making Fulvia panels.
This company has the largest selection https://www.ricambilanciafulvia.it/it/


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: nthomas1 on 01 May, 2019, 11:58:46 AM
Terence - I was in a similar situation to yours with regard to panels, and like you I opted for a mix of replace and repair.  I bought some panels from David Ashworth at Classic Lancia Restorations  in Wrexham: rear panel, lower rear valance, partial inner sill, subframe mounting boxes, right rear wheel arch - all of which I have been very pleased with.  I also bought some panels from Martin Willems in the Netherlands: outer sills, quarter wheel arch repair sections and driver floor pan - again, have been very pleased with these, and found the company easy to deal with and their shipping charges reasonable.  Some pictures below.


Title: Re: S1 Restoration - I think
Post by: lsdiff on 20 August, 2019, 12:26:00 PM
After much consideration, I've unfortunately decided to pull the plug on this project. I just can't see when I'll realistically ever find the time to get it finished. Before listing it on eBay or Car and Classic, I thought I'd post it here to see if anyone wants to make me an offer.

http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11256.0