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Title: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: Aurelia Adam on 23 January, 2010, 07:31:30 PM
Fine selection of cars for sale at Bonhams Retromobile auction in Paris today, including Aurelia, Appia, Fulvia and Flaminias.

Would make a very nice instant collection!

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r

Adam


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: Aurelia Adam on 23 January, 2010, 07:33:51 PM
Not sure that link worked so try this, if not just search on Bonhams Retromobile

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=EUR&screen=Catalogue&iSaleNo=18191


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 23 January, 2010, 07:49:11 PM
The Aurelia B20 looked a bit suspect, it didn't look like it had a 2500cc engine, more like a B10 or B12 unit??


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 24 January, 2010, 09:28:32 AM
The results were:  Appia S3 10,350euro  Flaminia pf Coupe 12,650euro  Flaminia S.Sport Zagato 89,700euro  Flaminia Touring Convertible 52,900euro  Aurelia B20 4th series 47,150euro  Fulvia Sport Zagato (Alloy body) 27600euro.


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: peterbaker on 24 January, 2010, 09:58:37 AM
have been promised set of images for www.retro-speed.co.uk eight oclock tonight. Will confirm. Auction report plus general pics on site mon afternoon.


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: Aurelia Adam on 24 January, 2010, 11:27:17 AM
Yes, the B20 did have the odd question mark against it.

The description is more than a little vague plus it was being sold at no reserve.

Still, at nearly 50,000 Euros it's a start point - as to where the end point is, you just never know!

On a different subject, if you catch Motors TV's review of the Autosport Show, there's an excellent piece on Lancia Rally success with little Tony Mason talking about the Delta, Stratos and O37.  It seems the world is finally catching on!

Adam


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: peterbaker on 24 January, 2010, 12:02:34 PM
If it was at Autosport the 037 and Delta were supplied by CLS as were most of the Lancia script notes


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 25 January, 2010, 08:31:16 PM
A first hand report on the B20 confirmed what I thought, it had a B12 engine fitted, had a poor quality respray, and in the words of the person who saw it "it was c**p".


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: Sebastien on 25 January, 2010, 08:43:05 PM
Re the Aurelia B20-3279 that sold in Paris.
I have only looked at the description and the photos in the Bonhams online catalog (still available online).
The engine looks like B10 or B12. Nice how the photographer hid the complete engine serial number, with Bxx prefix, and the valve covers. No photograph of the engine compartment, nor of the interior. The description, as another poster wrote, is very cautious about the car.
The fascia is not of a 4th series, but of a later 5th or 6th, with the late Jaeger instruments, and the ashtrays.
It is a good example of the way sale catalogs are written: Caveat emptor.
But all Lancias sold, at solid prices. This cannot be said of most of the more expensive machinery that was in the catalog.
Not sure what signal this is in today's market?



Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: peterbaker on 25 January, 2010, 08:52:13 PM
Running a magazine can be time consuming, we have now posted pics from show plus auction on www.retro-speed.co.uk.


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: DavidLaver on 25 January, 2010, 11:30:09 PM

Not sure if I'm more depressed by Appia prices creeping up, or what a sh*t box B20 can command.

The PF Flamina looked the bargain of the bunch.

How hard can it be to just stop looking?

David


Title: Re: Lancias at Retromobile Auction
Post by: ncundy on 25 January, 2010, 11:43:42 PM
Had exactly the same conversation with my dad at the weekend - the Flaminia looked a steal. What a lot of style and car for your money!

Disappointing that guides should be so ambiguous (or even misleading). Brings home the message that it pays to be a part of a club and forum that if you ask you can get good advice across the spectrum.