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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: pheaney on 25 November, 2023, 04:15:59 PM



Title: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: pheaney on 25 November, 2023, 04:15:59 PM
Hi does anyone know a source for new build  Fulvia S1 front springs please.
Thanks Paul.


Title: Re: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: lancialulu on 25 November, 2023, 10:24:30 PM
Possibly Cavalitto


Title: Re: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: OldSparky on 27 November, 2023, 10:28:34 PM
Was the john Bloxham that rough?


Title: Re: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: Wangler on 28 November, 2023, 10:01:59 AM
Maybe worth pursuing?

https://ricambilanciafulvia.it/en/product/front-leaf-spring-fulvia-exchange-part/


Title: Re: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: pheaney on 28 November, 2023, 05:10:24 PM
Thanks for the links I will try them out.


Title: Re: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: lancialulu on 28 November, 2023, 06:12:58 PM
for what its worth works cars ran Berlina front spring without second leaf.

You can buy these

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Title: Re: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: GlynW on 01 December, 2023, 05:04:31 PM
Slightly off-topic, but I hope rear springs will also be of interest.  In 2019 I was fortunate to obtain a pair of NOS rear springs for my 1971 S2 coupe, which has S1 rear spring mounts. These were fitted to the car in 2021.

To preserve them in use, and rather than use gaiters which can trap water, I opted to spray them with an underbody wax spray and then wrap them.  This was done with a layer of Denso (grease-impregnated) Tape, also used to protect underground pipework(!), which was then sealed with a layer of self-amalgamating rubber tape.  I did not wrap the centre section of the spring where it mounts to the axle, and the procedure was cheap, easy and gave a good finish.

After 18 months of use, the rubber tape is still soft and flexible and, while there has been some damage along the spring edges, this will be easily repaired.  I am probably not the first to do this, so would be pleased to hear of other people's experiences with methods of protecting springs.

Glyn


Title: Re: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: HBG on 01 December, 2023, 09:36:23 PM
Having used Denso tape for its intended purpose I can confirm that it's a messy business. That's a lot of work to protect the springs - are they that vulnerable? Any more so than everything around them?


Title: Re: Fulvia S1 new front springs available ?
Post by: GlynW on 02 December, 2023, 03:07:16 PM
Having used Denso tape for its intended purpose I can confirm that it's a messy business. That's a lot of work to protect the springs - are they that vulnerable? Any more so than everything around them?
Hi Howard,

It is the sort of job that is quite straightforward provided it is done before the springs are fitted.  The tape did not have a lot of excess grease and the spring was held in a Workmate, so I (and everything else) remained clean.

In part, I wanted to protect two new (rare) original springs, complete with their stencilling.  Though they are not more vulnerable than exhaust, shocks and brakes, those are readily available and less subject to variation from their original Lancia specifications.  I also had some experience from refurbishing my original springs in the 1990s. On removal, they practically fell off the car.  After removing the rust and replacing some of the separating strips their curvature increased and I needed to use a spring spreader to replace them.  However, despite painting them, within a few years they were looking rusty again.

This has prompted me to measure the old springs (finally replaced at 52 years and >200,000 miles) and compare them with the NOS springs.  The results are surprising.  The old springs have retained their curvature since their restoration and are actually more curved (and probably thinner, because of the loss of rust) than the NOS items.  It would be interesting to measure their spring rates, but the NOS items certainly provide more information and confidence in the rear wheels on the road.

Glyn