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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: HBG on 15 April, 2024, 10:47:33 AM



Title: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: HBG on 15 April, 2024, 10:47:33 AM
About this time a year ago my Fulvia arrived from Italy. I chose to buy a really good example that had been restored to a good standard so that I could concentrate on using it rather than fixing it. Due to delays at DVLA and life in general, it wasn't used until the end of August. Despite that I've clocked up 4500 miles since.

I knew I'd have to sort a few minor bits out as the car hadn't been used much, if at all, since its restoration. The test drive in Italy highlighting poor brakes and super heavy steering.

For those interested, I thought I'd list the bits and pieces I've done to the car/ had done. In imperfect order:

1.New battery with rubber mat under. Was supposed to have been done before delivery from Italy....
2. New spark plugs (2023) and leads. Lots if interference on the radio, so thought suppressed leads may help.
3. Fix interior light. Earth path blocked with paint. Took ages to sort this.
4. Dinitrol all cavities/ doors/ sills/ outriggers/ enclosed areas and under body. Schutz in wheel arches. Big messy job.
5. Replace N/S outer cv boot. Omicron did this during a day trip.
6. Brake servo (looks new) had a huge split in the rubber diaphragm. Omicron replaced this for me.
7. Steering idler was almost solid. The bushes had been replaced previously but were way too tight. Omicron fixed this the same time as the servo.
8. Whilst looking for the cause of the stiff steering the centre tie rod was replaced due to a stiff ball joint.
9. N/S track rod had two left hand threaded ball joints......so no adjustment was possible. Two new rod ends and another track rod adjuster sorted this. Then a trip to my local tyre place for alignment.
10. Soon after arrival from Italy, I changed the oil and filter. Also the coolant.
11. Replace all lamps with led types and led type flasher units as required. Classiccarleds.co.uk supplied.
12 Replace the door edge lamp holders to overcome a previous bodge.
13. Replace door speakers.
14. Fit bluetooth car stereo to enable music, phone and navigation instructions.
15. Replace tyres all round. Fitted Falkens. The high profile copes admirably with the potholed roads around here.
16. Fit retractable seat belts. Wasn't happy at all with the static belts.
17. Full service just completed ready for 2024. Oil, filter, air filter, gearbox oil, coolant, plugs etc.
18. New rear shocks fitted in Italy before delivery.
19. Recent job to remove the gearchange remote mechanism from the car and refurb it, reason being that the gear shift buzzes/ resonates at 3500 to 4000 revs. New bushes, grease seals, external return spring, plastic wedge in lower pivot fork, ring around ball. Very difficult, dirty job working on my back under the car in my drive. 80% sucessful as there is still a buzzing, albeit lesser and a bit different.
20. Fit hazard light circuit. New switch/ relay/ panel.
21. Clean fuse box/ Replace fuses.
22. General tidy of wiring, not that it was bad at all.
23. Have fitted 123 electronic ignition at Omicron.
24. Fit centre rear brake light.
25. Remove rear screen to attempt repair to heated screen....no luck. Filaments seem to have corroded/ burnt out adjacent to the aluminium border strip. Still looking for ideas as to how this can be repaired.
26. Replace charging regulator with a solid state type.
27. Improve door glass weather seal with much adjustment and fiddling. Add some neoprene rod inside the door seals to fill them out.

Have thoroughly enjoyed working on the car, almost as much as I love driving it!

Thanks to this community for much help and advice, Norm, Tim, Colin and Omicron imparticular.

Looking forward to another year of messing about.

Good job I bought a good one, eh?


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Simon B on 16 April, 2024, 11:19:52 AM
We bought one of those “needs nothing doing” Fulvia’s as my wife reminds me each time I disappear outside to do a job or another little package arrives in the post!

“ I chose to buy a really good example that had been restored to a good standard so that I could concentrate on using it rather than fixing it”…. oh, that’s so familiar!

I won’t list everything but it’s been pretty extensive, the reality is that it’s very hard to know what’s been done, or more precisely how well it’s been done, or has it deteriorated again because the cars not been used. The latter was certainly the case with our car, looked fantastic but brakes had sat and despite best efforts they needed a complete rebuild. Water pump, rear wheel bearings, alternator, steering idler, drive flange retaining bolts sheared….the list goes on and on, have I ever regretted buying it, not on your life!  Just planning the route to Italy this year, can’t wait!


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: HBG on 16 April, 2024, 11:37:49 AM
It didn't really occur to me that I'd be taking up amateur mechanics even though I've always dabbled.

Simon, do you have it pretty much sorted now? Good enough to use with confidence? What version do you have?

Where in Italy are you heading for? We rode the length of Italy last year and can't wait to return.


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Simon B on 16 April, 2024, 01:32:29 PM
I’ve had 30 plus year break from wielding spanner’s on old cars but mechanical engineer and will usually have a go at anything once!

We’ve had our 1975 Fulvia 3 Coupe 1.3S about 20 months and done 5000 miles, so yes happy to use with confidence. Still plenty to do though, I’ve not done as many “nice to have” type jobs, mainly essential works. The driving experience just gets better with each bit of work. Sorry, some Safari alloys this year were a “nice to have”, but the Falken’s at the same time transformed the ride.

Italy, planning to see the start and another couple of days of the Mille Miglia, so some time Nr Garda, Tuscany, and Emilia-Romagna


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: HBG on 18 April, 2024, 11:45:51 AM
Sounds like a great trip. Might be next year before we take ours back to its homeland!


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Edjsunfulvia on 25 April, 2024, 09:58:08 AM
I am also about a year into ownership, as per Howard. Lots wrong with my car imported from S.Africa. I don't have Howard's skill set so have spent a lot of money, much wasted, at a very well known Fulvia establishment.

Car currently with Lancialulu, in very safe hands I feel.  If Tim comes up trumps in time will be on a ferry tomorrow week for a drive around Asturias, then Pyrenees, S.of France and then to Italian lakes. 1965 Sunbeam Alpine is my 'fall back'.


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Spider2 on 27 April, 2024, 07:07:42 PM
My wife and I did 2,500 miles for our European tour last summer in our S1 Sport. Went flawlessly. We chose Lake Orta for our lakes stay. Beautiful. Much quieter and smaller than the other lakes. We stayed in Villa Antica Colonia overlooking the lake and I can really reccomend it. Took load of spares to ensure I did not need any.


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: fay66 on 28 April, 2024, 11:20:13 AM
My wife and I did 2,500 miles for our European tour last summer in our S1 Sport. Went flawlessly. We chose Lake Orta for our lakes stay. Beautiful. Much quieter and smaller than the other lakes. We stayed in Villa Antica Colonia overlooking the lake and I can really reccomend it. Took load of spares to ensure I did not need any.
We went to a big Lancia rally at Lake Orta in 1997 in my series 3 Vis auto Thema  , absolutely  lovely, then a big run to Fobello.
Just before Fobello we were all lined up alongside the road while a huge green Theta thundered past , and led us into into the village.
After lunch we then went to the Lancia Villa.
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Spider2 on 28 April, 2024, 08:17:19 PM
A Lancia in that region, especially a foreign one, will always get a special reception. We always did.


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Edjsunfulvia on 30 April, 2024, 07:43:52 AM
My wife and I did 2,500 miles for our European tour .....Took load of spares to ensure I did not need any.
Love to know what spares to take to ensure such reliability!


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: chriswgawne on 30 April, 2024, 08:29:13 AM
There is an earlier thread on this forum on what spares to take on a European trip but dont forget there is a sort of 'Murphys Law' which operates in the sense that the more spares you take the less likely it is that you need them.
I cant find the earlier thread just at the moment but I will look again later.
Chris


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Parisien on 30 April, 2024, 09:41:22 AM
This thread Chris?

https://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10966.0

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Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Edjsunfulvia on 30 April, 2024, 10:15:01 AM
My wife and I did 2,500 miles for our European tour .....Took load of spares to ensure I did not need any.
Love to know what spares to take to ensure such reliability!
This is what Simon has just shared with me:
I think the essentials are:
1) Fan Belt (s)
2) Radiator hoses.
3) Contact points if you have non electronic ignition
4) Fuel pump: Electric or manual dependant on what's fitted
5) Can of instant tyre repair
6) Ceramic fuses
7) Spare bulbs
8) Couple of spark plugs
9) Ignition coil
10) 2 litre can of engine oil
11) 2 litre can of mixed coolant
12) Thermos flask with decent coffee.
13) Spark plug spanner
14) 10 and 13 mm spanners
15) Couple of screwdrivers and pliers
16) Roll of electrical wire
17) Roll of duct tape and/or metal tape.
18) Insulation tape
19) Voltmeter
20) SPARE KEYS
21) Couple of rags
22 Breathalyser kit (Law in France)


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: poppy67 on 30 April, 2024, 04:17:02 PM
The breathalyser law never came to fruition, but carrying a reflective gillet did, eg :- exiting your vehicle on the hard shoulder.

More importantly it is advisable to take your documents :- insurance/license.

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Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: GG on 30 April, 2024, 04:59:03 PM
I'd probably throw in a solid tool kit (or roll) with an assortment of wrench sizes, screwdrivers, allen keys, maybe sockets too.

Or travel light with just the one small screwdriver - the local Italian mechanic can practically rebuild a transmission with just that.


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: ColinMarr on 30 April, 2024, 05:42:37 PM
Cable-ties!


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Parisien on 30 April, 2024, 06:40:31 PM


Or travel light with just the one small screwdriver -

Would that be a Phillips or the other one Geoff ;D

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Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: Wangler on 30 April, 2024, 09:21:04 PM
Why don’t people specify a torch?

If you can’t see what you’re trying to fix how can you fix it!

Personally I like a high quality rechargeable LED head torch. Even when I’m working in my well-lit garage I almost always wear my Olight when I’m doing anything on the car.


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: fay66 on 01 May, 2024, 09:01:12 PM
There is an earlier thread on this forum on what spares to take on a European trip but dont forget there is a sort of 'Murphys Law' which operates in the sense that the more spares you take the less likely it is that you need them.
I cant find the earlier thread just at the moment but I will look again later.
Chris
On most of our trips abroad  including I drive to Portugal, and 2 to Turin, I always took a lot of spares, particularly the Portugal trip, I've only ever had 2 punctures and a broken bonnet release cable! So I think as far as we were concerned, Murphy's Law was working a treat!
Rather than carrying a couple of spare plugs I always carried a complete set of new ones.
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: HBG on 02 May, 2024, 12:13:48 AM
I'd skip number 12, especially if travelling to Italy.


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: chriswgawne on 02 May, 2024, 09:44:38 AM
I realise ' purchase price paid' has some relevance here but I have to say that I would be disappointed to have to do so much remedial work on a car that I was told had been restored properly.......and I dread to think of what my wife would have said!!
I wonder whether you bought it from a dealer or was it a private purchase?
Anyway the main thing is that you are happy now and that it drives well.
Chris


Title: Re: A year into Fulvia ownership
Post by: lancialulu on 02 May, 2024, 04:31:13 PM
I realise ' purchase price paid' has some relevance here but I have to say that I would be disappointed to have to do so much remedial work on a car that I was told had been restored properly.......and I dread to think of what my wife would have said!!
I wonder whether you bought it from a dealer or was it a private purchase?
Anyway the main thing is that you are happy now and that it drives well.
Chris
It is a nice car and most of the list is in my opinion "nice to have" and personal to the owner - nothing wrong with that. There seems to be one or two peculiar restoration oddities but this would not be the first Fulvia to have been restored with only secondary attention to the mechanicals...