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« Reply #15 on: 20 November, 2017, 03:56:00 PM »

Good news. I was wondering why the winder handle was still poking through the door panel.

It is an incredible juggling act, and not any better putting back as you have new paint to contend with and all the glass seals etc.

Now off to get the expensive bit done!!

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« Reply #16 on: 28 November, 2017, 11:28:09 AM »

While refurbishing the doors I found a sealing strip around the inner edge of each door.  The purpose appears to be to cover the join where the outer door skin overlaps the inner.  They run around the entire inner flange, hiding the join completely.  I've removed them in order to get at some rust spots that needed to be treated.   Under the paint they are grey in colour, and relatively soft.  They look as though they may have been applied as a strip, rather than extruded using a caulk gun, but it's hard to tell.  The uniformity of them makes them look like they are a tape of some sort, but in a few end locations they look more like an extruded bead. 

The first two pictures below show part of the door with the strip in place.  The third picture shows part of the strip being removed.  The fourth picture shows a section of door edge with the strip removed completely.  Can anybody tell me if these strips are original fitment, or were added by a former owner?  Also, if not original, is it usual to apply sealer like like this in this location?


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« Reply #17 on: 28 November, 2017, 10:18:17 PM »

Seam sealer I would say Roll Eyes
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« Reply #18 on: 28 November, 2017, 11:15:03 PM »

Seam sealer I would say Roll Eyes

Do you have it on your HF Roger?
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« Reply #19 on: 29 November, 2017, 03:15:11 PM »

Good news. I was wondering why the winder handle was still poking through the door panel.

It is an incredible juggling act, and not any better putting back as you have new paint to contend with and all the glass seals etc.

Now off to get the expensive bit done!!

Tim

Norman, unlikely they were factory applied, never seen it before on any car, and can only think a previous owner didn't like the end of the panel showing.
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« Reply #20 on: 29 November, 2017, 04:59:45 PM »

It is there to retain water and aid rusting.
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« Reply #21 on: 29 November, 2017, 05:11:43 PM »

It is there to retain water and aid rusting.

Mine functioned quite well then!
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« Reply #22 on: 29 November, 2017, 05:13:34 PM »

Good news. I was wondering why the winder handle was still poking through the door panel.

It is an incredible juggling act, and not any better putting back as you have new paint to contend with and all the glass seals etc.

Now off to get the expensive bit done!!

Tim

Norman, unlikely they were factory applied, never seen it before on any car, and can only think a previous owner didn't like the end of the panel showing.

Thanks Brian - good to know.
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« Reply #23 on: 29 November, 2017, 05:19:49 PM »


My car has gone off to the bodyshop today for welding.  The owner has an Integrale, and previously owned a Stratos replica, so I think it's in good hands.
The car was trailered, and I took the stripped down doors and all of the new panels (outer sills, half-wing sections, front subframe mounting boxes, rear panel, rear valance, driver-side floor pan, inner sill repair section) in my car.  Milestone reached.  Now need to work through 6 boxes of assorted parts to refurbish them!
Here's the car being loaded, with my wife's Mito wondering what all the fuss is about.


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« Reply #24 on: 29 November, 2017, 05:53:33 PM »

Another milestone as you say, great to see real progress being made, keep up the good work and make sure he sticks to a decent time frame, unlike my experience with my body/paint guy!


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« Reply #25 on: 01 December, 2017, 12:04:38 AM »

Can anybody suggest a supplier for the various flock channels, scrapers and seals needed to refurbish Fulvia doors?  I've written to Omicron and am waiting for a reply.  I've looked at Martin Willems website in the Netherlands.  I've happily bought a number of things from there in the past but the site is in Dutch so I'll have to do some Google translation to see what's available.  Are there any other Lancia parts suppliers that are particularly good for rubber/trim parts?  Are any of the parts, such as flock channel, generic enough that they could be supplied by a non-Lancia specialist like Woolies?  As always would appreciate any pointers.
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« Reply #26 on: 01 December, 2017, 08:02:24 AM »

Norm
If you want originality you need to buy all rubber from Italy suppliers like Elvesio Or Cigonani(?). If you buy the same from others it generally is at a higher price.....
I have a length of the correct window channel enough for a Fulvia Coupe left over if you want to make me an offer.
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« Reply #27 on: 01 December, 2017, 09:24:44 AM »

Norm
If you want originality you need to buy all rubber from Italy suppliers like Elvesio Or Cigonani(?). If you buy the same from others it generally is at a higher price.....
I have a length of the correct window channel enough for a Fulvia Coupe left over if you want to make me an offer.
Tim

Thanks Tim, that's very helpful.  I looked at the Elvesio and Cicognani websites and they seem to have comprehensive selections of parts.  Is the length of window channel that you have long enough to do all 4 channels?   On the question of originality, I'm not obsessed with keeping every detail original.  Things like hardware and rubber I would happily use non-original.  If my car were a Fanalone or an HF I might take a different position, but I have to be mindful that it's a standard S2 Coupe and my investment to date has already well exceeded its likely market value. 
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« Reply #28 on: 01 December, 2017, 04:07:49 PM »

Norm
If you want originality you need to buy all rubber from Italy suppliers like Elvesio Or Cigonani(?). If you buy the same from others it generally is at a higher price.....
I have a length of the correct window channel enough for a Fulvia Coupe left over if you want to make me an offer.
Tim

Thanks Tim, that's very helpful.  I looked at the Elvesio and Cicognani websites and they seem to have comprehensive selections of parts.  Is the length of window channel that you have long enough to do all 4 channels?   On the question of originality, I'm not obsessed with keeping every detail original.  Things like hardware and rubber I would happily use non-original.  If my car were a Fanalone or an HF I might take a different position, but I have to be mindful that it's a standard S2 Coupe and my investment to date has already well exceeded its likely market value. 
Norman,
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« Reply #29 on: 01 December, 2017, 04:24:28 PM »

Norman can you give me the length you require? I will check.

Re other rubber parts I have no experience of use of generic and how you would fit them to a Fulvia. I suspect they would not be the same as the correct moulded part and you would have to take a view on that, as you may not be happy when fitted up.

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1955 Aurelia B12
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1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi.e.
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