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« Reply #60 on: 15 January, 2018, 12:33:29 PM »

Yes it is cheap, at today's prices, but the ad expired nearly 5 years ago! David has only put the link on the show a HF in Rosso York.
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« Reply #61 on: 15 January, 2018, 02:06:13 PM »

Yes it is cheap, at today's prices, but the ad expired nearly 5 years ago! David has only put the link on the show a HF in Rosso York.
Then I retract. That was expensive!
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« Reply #62 on: 15 January, 2018, 09:15:35 PM »

shows how much they have gone up in five years, reminds me of looking for a 993RS RHD for a friend about 10 years ago, 964RS just not selling at about 25k and we finally found a mint low miles 993 RS for 62k, he sold it 3-4 years later for 120k now about 250 - 300k he 964rs's are now well up into mid 150k +, I think in about 3 - 4 years the s2 HF's will be at current fanalone levels and fanalones will be up by at least 50%.......
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« Reply #63 on: 23 January, 2018, 02:45:22 PM »

Having said all that, I am trying to find the formula for Rosso York and cannot - I can only find Lancia code 126-178F and according to what I have written on the garage door my car is Fiat Rosso Nearco anyway - Lancia no 108.    Anyone had some paint made up recently?   I need to do a bit of respraying.
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« Reply #64 on: 23 January, 2018, 03:06:09 PM »

Having said all that, I am trying to find the formula for Rosso York and cannot - I can only find Lancia code 126-178F and according to what I have written on the garage door my car is Fiat Rosso Nearco anyway - Lancia no 108.    Anyone had some paint made up recently?   I need to do a bit of respraying.

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My Gamma Coupe is Rosso Nearco. I have the formula (attached). Also a pic of my car - is your car darker?

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« Reply #65 on: 23 January, 2018, 03:17:09 PM »

Rosso York on the Lechler data base is not a simple matter.

There are 5 flavours of an FCA colour that existed from 1965-1980.

Also varies in formula if you go 1 or 2K direction.


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« Reply #66 on: 23 January, 2018, 05:38:03 PM »

Re Rosso York - if I keep it there is enough of the original colour hidden around the car to match it - Dog is very good at this because of all the SMART repair work he does. I think MIPA may have a code to start us off on the right track

ps - my rosso york is more Costa than Gamma !

Been doing some grotty jobs recently - in between pruning and skiing !!

The inside of the boot has now been finished, cleaned out, rubbed down, new plate in one corner, de-rusted and undercoated before an anti-rust paint brushed on and then a final cover with gravel-spray (overpaintable kind). This last stage gives a finish that approximates the Lancia finish and I can satin black it if there is any overspray during the body paint-job

Underneath I have used a Shutz-type uderseal that has anti-rust additives. Once the car is back on the road after all the work I can go over it all with Waxoyl

Final job this week was stripping the old underseal from the inner wheel arch, ready for the various stages of protection ....
Lot of work for bits that no-one will ever see !


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« Reply #67 on: 23 January, 2018, 11:46:47 PM »

"gravel-spray"?
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« Reply #68 on: 24 January, 2018, 07:05:29 AM »

Is it not called gravel spray , maybe stone chip ?? - It is a textured paint (undercoat) that is often used under the bumper line and on cills before painted in bodycolour. I have been using a UPOL product called Gravitex at about 10/litre
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« Reply #69 on: 27 January, 2018, 05:17:13 PM »

Been pottering away this week during rain delays .... rare here and I depressed already and can't wait for the sun to return

Starting to put it all back together again, so a few photos and comments

The badges have cleaned up nicely, a before and after. I used a small brass bristled wire brush to clean the relief part of the badge, then scotch-brite'd the raised parts and sides, once clean it was then sprayed with acrylic lacquer

The breather pipes and box were cleaned with white spirit and acetone. Care needed with the Cavis Benz script because the white spirit is OK but the acetone removes it. There was quite a lot of Rosso York overspray on the pipes and white spirit won't remove it

Spring has been re-assembled (with smear of coppaslip). You need to clamp the leaves together to get the locating bolt through. Still waiting on some more spring clamps to arrive, but the first one has been fitted

Various pictures of the bits going back in, if you see what looks like specks of rust - it isn't, just splodges of coppaslip !
I fitted a new brake limiter because they are so cheap and why not ! The fuel pipes were pitted so they were rubbed down and hammerited.

The breather pipes and filler pipe all look nice and shiny now they are back in place. The bobbin rubbers on the anti-roll bar are held in place with top hat washers, these in turn are held in place with roll pins, not split pins as I originally thought. New ones came from Omicron with some other bits.

I have bought De Carbon shock absorbers, but they were quite difficult to find at a sensible price. Cavalitto and Omicron are out of them but I found a set (f+r) in Italy.

Now waiting on some more rust converter to arrive so I can finish the wheel arches, but I still have to strip and clean the other spring and axle.

Question -- Is it possible to remove the hubs on the ground , with my newly acquired centre nut tool ?? Or will it be easier to refit the axle albeit briefly ?



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« Reply #70 on: 27 January, 2018, 05:20:54 PM »

More ....

Forgot to mention that care is needed to fit the spring - with the front bolt in place, you haul down on the back of the spring whilst jacking the centre of the spring. When it is stretched enough you slide the rear, lower bolt into place. Bit of a handful on your own !



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« Reply #71 on: 27 January, 2018, 06:22:05 PM »

If you can hold the axle to prevent 200+ft lb torque when undoing the hub nut then you do not need to attach it!!

Nice detailing btw.
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« Reply #72 on: 27 January, 2018, 06:50:28 PM »


Love the green pipes. 

The inside of the boot is now so nice I could understand you wanting your girls to wrap their luggage in blankets to protect the car Wink

The extent of the bow in that rear spring surprised:  "you haul down on the back of the spring whilst jacking the centre of the spring".  Did you have to jack AND haul at the same time?  Able to pull it down (hence to length) by hand?   How far short of the shackle was it before the push and pull?  The craziest spring "before and after" has to be the Aprilia...

As for the rain - you do need that water in the ground at some point...  Just put Carcassonne into my weather favourites.  You get sunshine tomorrow but we're four or five degrees warmer. 
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« Reply #73 on: 27 January, 2018, 07:20:00 PM »

It's looking really good Simon. I have a couple of questions that you might be able to help with:

(1) Was there a rubber strip on each of the flanges inside the boot on the rear of the wheel arches?  I had one on one side of mine only, and wondered if they were factory fitment.  See pictures 1 and 2.   

(2) This has puzzled me for a while.  Should the corners of the boot be sealed , or was a gap left deliberately for some reason?  In my car there was a rubber strip stapled to the boot floor and covering the vertical flange at each corner of the boot. I removed  these to allow the corners of the boot floor to be removed  and replaced with new metal.  Now I have to decide how to replace them.  There was a narrow gap between the edge of these rubber strips and the inside of the rear wing.  It's not clear to me whether there should be a gap there or not.  I can see the strip on your picture (the one showing the green pipes) but can't see whether there's a gap or not.  My third and fourth pictures show the right corner of my boot before and after removing the rubber strip from that side. 


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« Reply #74 on: 27 January, 2018, 08:42:02 PM »

Looks familiar!
http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9873.0
Is the rubber on the arch seam to protect hands from sharp edges when you're putting stuff in the boot? And a rubber flap on the floor perimeter to seal to the outer wings to prevent water ingress? See to remember seeing something similar on infill panels on the front wings of my S1 Beta HPE to stop crud getting to the back of the wing behind the wheel.
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