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Author Topic: Report on (slow) S2 Coupe rebuild progress  (Read 66974 times)
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Jaydub
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« Reply #660 on: 13 November, 2020, 11:06:35 AM »

Hi Norm, I have just seen your pump set up. You don`t need the inline filter if you are using the tank filter and Facet pumps have a built in filter anyway. Personally, others may disagree, I think 3.0 psi pressure is too high. We always run 2.5 psi on Race cars and they have a higher demand and subjected to more G forces. Another point, speaking from someone who bears the scars of cuts from Ty-wraps, CUT THE ENDS OFF!
Keep up the good work!
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« Reply #661 on: 13 November, 2020, 11:44:56 AM »

Hi Norm, I have just seen your pump set up. You don`t need the inline filter if you are using the tank filter and Facet pumps have a built in filter anyway. Personally, others may disagree, I think 3.0 psi pressure is too high. We always run 2.5 psi on Race cars and they have a higher demand and subjected to more G forces. Another point, speaking from someone who bears the scars of cuts from Ty-wraps, CUT THE ENDS OFF!
Keep up the good work!
Just to confirm I have always had the set up as per Norman and found no problem. Regarding pressure the Solex 35PHH manual says 2.0mH20 which is 2.8psi. Given there is a tank return on S2 Fulvias this is to smooth out the mech pump pulses which self regulates to and average c3psi. Once I tried an experiment with my very thirsty 1600 and wound the regulator (filter king with gauge) right down to 1 psi. I could not make the car misbehave. So 2 psi is fine but still the manual says higher.
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« Reply #662 on: 13 November, 2020, 11:55:00 AM »

Mmmm, a bit unsure what to do now!  

I've basically repeated the set-up the car came with, but with a new inline filter (replacing the old one) before the Facet.  I didn't know there was a filter in the Facet - presumably accessible via the detachable portion at the bottom.  I had considered a Filter King to replace both filter and regulator as I've seen that setup, with a Facet, on a number of Fulvias.  So they all must have double filtering then!
  
With regard to the Sytec setting, it was set at 2.5 when I bought the car and has been moved accidentally during installation.  I'll put it back to 2.5.  Thanks for pointing that out John.  And, yes, I'll cut off the plastic tie leads.  Good idea.
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Norm Thomas
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« Reply #663 on: 13 November, 2020, 01:35:39 PM »


A clear filter is a nice thing to have if nervous of an old tank. 
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« Reply #664 on: 13 November, 2020, 05:34:46 PM »


Now that the electrics are done I won't be spending so much time lying across the front footwells with my legs hanging out of the door opening, meaning that the driver-side door could be fitted.  I steadied the car on a couple of jacks under the front subframe mounts, and wheeled the door into position using my rolling jig.  The  jig enabled me to fit the door on my own without help - useful in lockdown.  Just a little bit of jiggling to do tomorrow to get the gaps right and I can go ahead and get the door trimmed up.

Nice to have a two door car at last!


* a Door ready.JPG (760.22 KB, 1701x1025 - viewed 3 times.)

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Norm Thomas
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« Reply #665 on: 13 November, 2020, 05:38:13 PM »

Looking really, really good - You won't want to drive her !
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« Reply #666 on: 13 November, 2020, 05:43:18 PM »

Norman did you find a source for the rubbery plastic cover or the lower aperture to keep the rain/damp attacking the door card?
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1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
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1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
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1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
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1998 Zeta
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« Reply #667 on: 13 November, 2020, 05:48:59 PM »


No Tim - I am just using a thick polythene sheet over the whole inner surface, similar to what was on the car when I bought it.  You've got me wondering now!
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Norm Thomas
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« Reply #668 on: 14 November, 2020, 01:03:42 PM »

A suggestion from elsewhere on rubber covers was making them from conveyor belt rubber with bits glued on to form steps where they have to be mounted.
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« Reply #669 on: 14 November, 2020, 04:00:20 PM »


No Tim - I am just using a thick polythene sheet over the whole inner surface, similar to what was on the car when I bought it.  You've got me wondering now!
I would do the same. DPC membrane is ideal with double sided tape.... Have you waxed the inner part of the door??
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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi
1998 Zeta
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« Reply #670 on: 14 November, 2020, 07:07:47 PM »

Plastic sheet certainly does the job and is standard from at least Beta onward but this from a Flaminia is an example of what I imagined.


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« Reply #671 on: 14 November, 2020, 08:05:49 PM »

Tim - yes, I've protected the inside of the door with Dinitrol cavity wax.  The heavy polythene that I've used as a membrane was wrapped around some furniture we bought a few years back. I put it to one side just for this purpose. I used double sided tape to fasten it. Being transparent is an advantage I think.  

Frank - it's interesting to see the Flaminia solution.  I love automotive archeology like this!
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Norm Thomas
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« Reply #672 on: 15 November, 2020, 02:21:49 PM »

Tim - yes, I've protected the inside of the door with Dinitrol cavity wax.  The heavy polythene that I've used as a membrane was wrapped around some furniture we bought a few years back. I put it to one side just for this purpose. I used double sided tape to fasten it. Being transparent is an advantage I think.  

Frank - it's interesting to see the Flaminia solution.  I love automotive archeology like this!
My 2c has a similar to Frank's Flaminia.
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« Reply #673 on: 15 November, 2020, 05:48:03 PM »

I have always just used a polythene sheeting type membrane and glued the top and two sides with an adhesive sealant.  However along the bottom, I have cut slits in the membrane up to the corners of the aperture so that the membrane could be tucked into and hang down inside the metal panel.  Thus any water dropping down on to the membrane will continue to run down inside the door frame panel and out the drain slots.  Regards -
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« Reply #674 on: 15 November, 2020, 06:44:51 PM »

That is an excellent idea Roddy. Iíll do the same.
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Norm Thomas
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Previous Lancias: S2 Coupe and S3 Coupe in late 1970s
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