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Author Topic: TSU 306 - the restoration begins  (Read 4525 times)
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« Reply #60 on: 18 April, 2020, 03:52:20 PM »

Nice looking puller. There was very little stress on pulling them off. But thanks for the tip

Nothing like that Aurelia thing on the Appia

I'll have a look at the wipers in detail

Anyway, another good day in the garage sorting the front brakes out. Shoes all need new brake lining. So, when I get the new second set of axel stands, I will get the rears up again and send the rears off too. They were very marginal, so if I need to send them off, I might as well do them all. Good to know that we got good life out of the shoes before the car was laid up, ha ha!

Front pistons haven't moved for a while! but I have got them moving a bit by tapping a piece of wooden dowel into the piston where a steel dowel anyway pushes the shoe. I have squirted copious WD40 and will leave it a week. One is almost out.

Steering is now finished. Surprising how much that eccentric bolt moves the arm. I'll measure when the wheels are back on. I'll read up on whether its toe in or out that is favoured.

One photo shows the stub axel and I am afraid I'll be asking Clarky (if I may) for some of the rubber that goes around the metal again the plate: these are quite degraded.



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« Reply #61 on: 18 April, 2020, 03:55:18 PM »

Good point about using the bonnet centre strip as a guide, I will do that twm
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« Reply #62 on: 18 April, 2020, 03:57:48 PM »

Ah, you meant with the large Sedgefield puller, not my little one
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« Reply #63 on: 18 April, 2020, 04:01:15 PM »

I got my (very stuck) pistons out with a compressor and air nozzle - BUT care , they can shoot out and hit you in the eye or worse !!

The consortium has new seals and brake flexi's - probably worth doing while you are at it. On a final note, it has been said before, but the 3rd ser brakes can be difficult to seal. I found that aluminium washers were more effective than copper

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« Reply #64 on: 18 April, 2020, 04:13:57 PM »

A good trick to get pistons out is to fit a grease nipple in place of the bleed valve and pump grease in - much more controlled than compressed air but could be even more violent - take precautions...
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« Reply #65 on: 18 April, 2020, 08:47:51 PM »

That's a good tip Tim.
I like that.
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« Reply #66 on: 19 April, 2020, 02:49:28 PM »

One side's pistons came out with the brake pedal. I shall refurb that side and then push out the other on the pedal.

Copper/Aluminium washers? Where are those? The pistons are spring, rubber seal, brass piston. Then there are the outer rubber seals.The flexi hoses were replaced with good modern ones many years ago and are in good condition.



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« Reply #67 on: 20 April, 2020, 07:37:44 PM »

Didnt mean to ignore the air or grease tips. Sound good, but I am unsure about where and how to screw grease gun or compressor in (which I don't have anyway)
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« Reply #68 on: 20 April, 2020, 07:46:42 PM »

Hi, the washers I was referring to are behind the backplate , where the unions are fitted to the wheel cylindres - they can be difficult to seal, especially if you try over-tightening them

On the road soon ??
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« Reply #69 on: 20 April, 2020, 08:36:35 PM »

Ok, don't intend to mess with that at this point

about another month I think. Not on holiday now, so just weekends. Brake shoes need sending off for re-lining, dynamo needs to come back, water pump bearings need to be found. Just ordered exhaust down pipe and water pump gaskets. If I get everything else sorted and its just water pump bearings, I'll use the old ones since they weren't too bad

I have a bit of body work to bodge as well

I will for sure let you know!
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« Reply #70 on: 21 April, 2020, 05:30:56 PM »

Down pipe has arrived, thanks Clarkey

Raises an interesting question which I will investigate at the weekend. The previous excuse for a down pipe inserted into the rest of the almost certainly non-standard exhaust about 10cms after the turn at the bottom. As you can see the right item is much longer, so I will need to fettle the middle section. (I will in due course get the rest of the system replaced)

Or, perhaps this is a way of the Lancia racing Gods telling me I need a shortened side-exit system?

Only kidding!


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« Reply #71 on: 21 April, 2020, 05:33:40 PM »

I have also got in touch with Spax following getting the order details from Clarkey (Thanks) and have ordered the rear shocks.

Just so there is a record on the forum, the model number needed is 'K65EE0 CUSTOM TELESCOPIC'
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« Reply #72 on: 09 May, 2020, 03:52:22 PM »

The old exhaust is now off and separated. Will likely get a middle and end section sorted as its pretty ropey, to go with the new down pipe.

Have put in the new rear hub seals, and changed the diff oil. We have had leaks which have ruined the brake shoes, so I will need to see if this has sorted the leak before putting the newly relined brake shoes back on.

I have done one half of the hand brake actuator lever, with new dust boots and rubber covers for the inner pivot point. Cleaned all that and regreased.

I now have the new alternator and will sort that next, along with the water pump.


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« Reply #73 on: 10 May, 2020, 05:03:12 PM »

I have been putting the water pump back together and I have a question or two.

The water pump was weeping a little from the drain holes, and thats why my brother and I thought it was worth changing bearings and seal. We thought the bearings weren't any good, but that turned out to be the dynamo. Ummm.

I have now put the pump together so that the bearings and C clip are in place, and I was simply going to put the seal in and peg the impeller, but then I thought about the seal, chatted with my brother and wondered how it would do its job.

So, the question is if we are missing a part (no. 4 in the attached diagram), or is this a part that only applied to earlier series? If some one could explain how the seal works we would be grateful. Is part no. 4 a cup type arrangement that presses into the impeller-side flange-with-wall, and holds the seal in place?

Otherwise, the brake pistons are all in and the handbrake pivot arm is tidied up and greased, with both sides having the new rubber dust boots.

The hub seals seem to have done their job as there were no tell tale drips. Obviously we will keep a eye out.

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« Reply #74 on: 10 May, 2020, 05:07:08 PM »

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