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Author Topic: Sothebys Duemila Route Lancia sale 25/27 Nov.  (Read 4389 times)
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« on: 24 November, 2016, 03:03:53 PM »

If you are not doing anything this weekend you could pop over to Milan for an Italian Job lot auction at Fiera Milano put on by RM Sothebys. Over 400 cars up for bids of which there are around 30 Lancia's including engines. The Italian Tax man got their hands on a reluctant payer so took his car collection instead. What a collection and such taste with Aurelia's, Ardea, Beta, Delta, all the F's and even an LC2 and 3 Fulvia engines. No reserve so be tempted.   


http://www.rmsothebys.com/tv16/duemila-ruote/lots/?sort=lot&collection=Lancia
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« Reply #1 on: 24 November, 2016, 06:55:36 PM »

Everyone I know is going! Fascinated to see what the prices are on the day as the estimates all look low to me.
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« Reply #2 on: 24 November, 2016, 07:01:36 PM »

I tried to register to bid yesterday - but (un)fortunately too late to register .....

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Will be "watching" it online
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« Reply #3 on: 25 November, 2016, 03:19:00 PM »



Will be "watching" it online
[/quote] I would like to do that, but have no idea how to go about it. Their website doesn't seem to tell me!
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« Reply #4 on: 25 November, 2016, 03:45:11 PM »

Love the 1.2HF for 15-20k. Ha. That's the way to get them in the door and bidding!
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« Reply #5 on: 25 November, 2016, 06:33:37 PM »

To register you need a proof from your bank that you are good for bidding or something - didnt quite understand, also credit card has to cover 25% of the estimate?Huh? As I am watching the England v Argentina tomorrow when certain Fulvias are being sold I hope someone is going to log the hammer prices out of curiosity v their estimates!!!
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« Reply #6 on: 25 November, 2016, 07:48:07 PM »

No live stream, but this guy is putting hammer prices on his twitter feed
https://twitter.com/antonio_brunet
Strong prices for the lancias today
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« Reply #7 on: 25 November, 2016, 07:57:19 PM »

Thanks for that Jay, didn't see any Lancias mentioned can you let us know what they go/went for? Seems other prices well exceeded estimates, supposing they were correct in first place!


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« Reply #8 on: 25 November, 2016, 08:50:14 PM »

Jason and I are here in Milan for a long weekend and it is very busy.  Stories ofm3 hour queues to register to bid yesterday.  The low estimates have bought every dealer in the world here so very few bargains although to be fair we've only seen a few lots go as we've been checking out cars for some friends.  It is amazing to be able to sit in some rare (and not very well looked after) cars with complete freedom.  We'll take more of an interest tomorrow as there's a couple of cars of interest to us  with no expectation on our side) so will post more info tomorrow evening.
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« Reply #9 on: 26 November, 2016, 06:59:25 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: 26 November, 2016, 10:14:41 AM »

No live stream, but this guy is putting hammer prices on his twitter feed
https://twitter.com/antonio_brunet
Strong prices for the lancias today


Enlarging the catalogue photos on the twitter feed reveals the sold for prices plus fees etc on top no doubt, so either Sothebys hadn't a clue about what many cars were worth or deliberately reeled in those thinking bargains were to be had! Cars going for 2/5/10 times their estimates is a total nonsense.


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« Reply #11 on: 26 November, 2016, 10:29:42 AM »

Hi Frank

I think most folk would have guessed that from the off, there is what appears to be a group 4 Beta Coupe estimated around 5-7,000 Euros when you can only just buy an average Beta Coupe for that money in Europe. They would have been as well leaving estimates off from what I have seen.

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« Reply #12 on: 26 November, 2016, 10:33:08 AM »

I think RM Sotheby’s play it perfectly (commercially that is) tempting bidders (including me) out of the €100 registration fee, giving us all false sense of hope and the bargains to be had.

This auction made some interesting reading, with some predicting that this could burst the current bubble.     
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« Reply #13 on: 26 November, 2016, 10:39:48 AM »

Indeed Jay, they appear to have "played" quite a few people!

I've not got much of a clue as regards some car prices but items going for 5/10 the amount?!

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« Reply #14 on: 26 November, 2016, 11:59:31 AM »

What has surprised me so far about the prices realised at this auction are those for the various Porsche 911s. Jacky and I are long term 'classic' 911 owners and drivers (30 years +) and consequently   I thought I had a fairly good idea of the market for these both in the UK and Italy but I seem to be wrong. Virtually all yesterdays 911s sold for a lot more than I would have thought (never mind the auctioneers estimates) and I am told that many of the road cars were in typical condition - i.e not especially rust free etc.
I wonder if these high prices will continue through to Sunday pm?
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