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« Reply #15 on: 10 August, 2016, 09:08:42 PM »

Tim,

That`s great,
let me know when it will be convenient to pop round to collect it.

Thanks again,

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« Reply #16 on: 12 August, 2016, 06:11:56 PM »

Bob

sent you an email.

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« Reply #17 on: 14 August, 2016, 03:42:50 PM »

Chaps,

Well Tim kindly printed off a large copy of the wiring diagram, and even spent some time with his multi meter trying to identify the problem, all to no avail.

I took all the lamps out today and checked the in-line fuses which were fine, so I am now at a dead end, so have contacted Martin Cliffe and will drop it up to Omicron in the next couple of weeks and let his chaps loose on it.

Bear with me on this, as I will let you all know what the problem/solution was just in case any of you have the same problem in the future.

I still hate electrics !

Thanks Tim.

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« Reply #18 on: 19 August, 2016, 06:58:35 PM »

coincidentally I am at the stage of re-establishing some electrics to my Vignale I am restoring. After carefully checking things I attached the battery and got indicators and wipers!!! But no lights. I have just drawen out the CEAM relay as without an understanding I was not sure that the previous owner had wired it correctly (actually it may have been an earlier owner). Now I understand the relay logic sort of I can check the wiring. What is clear is that all systems stop if the side light switch does not provide this relay with initial power (to the middle relay in the box). I may have a wire fallen off under the dash.....
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1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
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1972 1600 HF
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1978 Transformer HF3000 Strato's replica
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
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« Reply #19 on: 20 August, 2016, 02:59:37 PM »

A tedious but successful day under the bonnet. Vignale in their infinite wisdom put the relay board with 3 relays right under the wing so totally inaccessible and has to be unbolted and dragged across the fuse tray to get to the relays and the main relay uses the chassis fixing as its primary earth without which not much works. Anyway after at least 10 times of bolting and unbolting to tweak the nodding donkey I concluded it was easier to set this relay up on a bench with its own battery and exercise leads. The problem (in my car's case) was the nodding donkey (I called it something much more rude) is so precise to flick the cam wheel. A few thou out and it will work 3 times then miss the next segment. A few thou in height and reach the other way will not activate the cam fully. Trial and error!! Any way I am happy to say V has all lights working and indicators, heater fan, and wiper. so more than 50% electric circuits are now commissioned. The fun starts next week when I try to start the engine. Must read the manual re KF injection bleeding....
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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia HFR
1972 1600 HF
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1978 Transformer HF3000 Strato's replica
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
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« Reply #20 on: 29 November, 2016, 02:58:37 PM »

Update on the electrics in particular headlamp main / dip relay box. After my success back in August, the lights decided to stop working apart from the side lights. Having other more interesting things to waste my time on I left it until yesterday. Fault still there. Finally traced to a poor earth on the relay mounting metal tray which I had previously painted. After scraping away the new paint and re-bolting the tray hard down to the chassis all lights worked dip back and forth.....
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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia HFR
1972 1600 HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1978 Transformer HF3000 Strato's replica
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi.e.
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« Reply #21 on: 29 November, 2016, 05:22:42 PM »

Excellent result Tim .... earthing problems seems to the bane of our lives!!!!

                           Andy
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« Reply #22 on: 29 November, 2016, 05:38:14 PM »

Nice little job to get out of the way - you can see where you are going now
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« Reply #23 on: 29 November, 2016, 08:04:17 PM »

Yes Andy (and Dave) no need to "borrow" your spare to update to a modern flip flop relay just yet!!
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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia HFR
1972 1600 HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1978 Transformer HF3000 Strato's replica
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
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« Reply #24 on: 29 November, 2016, 11:10:35 PM »

Tim,

That`s  interesting, I will check the earths on mine this weekend, as I haven`t been able to get it up to Omicron, as I had the brake master cylinder problem as you will know from my previous posts.

I will let you all know if I have the same earth problem.

Bob
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