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Author Topic: Aprilia Cabrio - here we go again  (Read 58606 times)
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« Reply #375 on: 24 March, 2020, 09:48:21 AM »

How much Tim and where from? And no good on aluminium?
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« Reply #376 on: 24 March, 2020, 09:51:06 AM »

Simon,

Don't suppose too quickly no-one will be interested in a rear axle write-up, I'm certainly interested (for things to come...)

Could you give me a bit more information on the induction heater, that seems a good tool!

Keep up the good work.

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« Reply #377 on: 24 March, 2020, 01:55:28 PM »

I bought mine from a company in the UK - details below. I believe that they out of stock of the 240v and only have the USA 110V version at the moment. I think they are about 400 with all the loops

Paul Morgan
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01206 263622
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08721 113024
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bolt-buster.co.uk
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PMTech Services Ltd, Unit 14, Mason Road
Cowdray Centre, Colchester, Essex CO1 1BX

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« Reply #378 on: 24 March, 2020, 01:59:13 PM »

Here goes with the pdf file ......

* Aprilia Rear Axle2.pdf (730.06 KB - downloaded 38 times.)
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« Reply #379 on: 24 March, 2020, 02:09:15 PM »

How much Tim and where from? And no good on aluminium?
Chris

Ironically the distributor/agent is just round the corner from me (Colchester, Essex)... its about 400 as Simon says. https://www.bolt-buster.co.uk/index.html#1

 Mine is 240v. Not very efficient at all on non ferrous material. Ie I tried it on one of those stubborn Fulvia thermostats stuck in its housing.... No joy (brass and aluminium alloy). On any ferrous nut bolt or housing it is amazingly effective. Rusty old nuts on rusty ols studs come apart after a 15 second application as if they had been greased...
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« Reply #380 on: 24 March, 2020, 03:38:49 PM »

Keeping the thermostat housing vertical and submerged in WD40 applied through its inside for 7 days should help removal of the thermostat. Harry used to sell a very useful 41 mm box spanner for undoing the thermostat, Andrea
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« Reply #381 on: 24 March, 2020, 04:11:12 PM »

That is a very useful document, Simon!
Your .pdf should also go in the Technical Information tab  Smiley.
 
Kind regards,
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« Reply #382 on: 25 March, 2020, 07:30:15 AM »

Thanks Tim, David W also put some bearing data under "technical data" a few years ago
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« Reply #383 on: 25 March, 2020, 03:46:20 PM »

"Rusty old nuts on rusty old studs come apart after a 15 second application as if they had been greased..."

Put that on the poster !!!

...also a reminder that heat works, be it flame or electric.
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« Reply #384 on: 29 March, 2020, 04:38:48 PM »

Bit more over the weekend

The diff has been stripped of the brakes and been thoroughly cleaned - Karcher, degrease, Karcher, degrease, scrape, wire brush, white spirit on a brush - repeat as necessary ......
I drained the oil which was pretty clean and had a look inside with a camera to check the crownwheel teeth which look OK , so not planning to dismantle the diff

I have recorded this before on the "Aprilia Diary" but a common issue with Aprilias is a leak from the differential nose seal, great for keeping the transverse leaf spring oiled, but not good for the garage floor

I have seen a couple of types of setup on other diffs - an old fashioned lip seal made by Gallitau (?) or a cork seal. There is a modern equivalent, available very cheaply, but sometimes the spider is worn and even with a new seal it leaks.
A good option is to fit a "Speedi-Sleeve" which is so thin you use the original seal

Lastly - does anyone know if you can strip the "Houdaille" shock absorber , or even better have a diagram of one in bits ?? I only have the parts book diagram

Thanks !


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« Reply #385 on: 29 March, 2020, 05:17:00 PM »

Strangely, Lincoln Zephyr mounted Houdaille Shocks.

See:
https://www.applehydraulicsonline.com/products/zephyr-12-cyl-1936-set-of-4-lincoln-shocks

Certainly set differently than for the much lighter Aprilia.

I have also found appended diagram, on the web.

Hope this helps.


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« Reply #386 on: 29 March, 2020, 05:25:37 PM »

There is a complete manual for the Houdaille shock there:
http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/manuals/Ford/Haudaille/

Images are .jpg so easily saved.
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« Reply #387 on: 29 March, 2020, 06:00:26 PM »

Thanks Sebastien - That's great !

Looking at the diagrams and reading up on the units, it seems as if quite a lot of special tools are needed to dismantle them, so I will check them for leaks and make sure that they haven't been filled with the wrong type of oil - should be glycerine as you know

Just need to find a source of glycerine shock absorber fluid now - I think Penrite may do something but need to check the formula
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« Reply #388 on: 29 March, 2020, 06:18:03 PM »

If ever you need a place to restore the Houdaille shocks, there is:

http://houdailleshocks.com/ in the USA.

I wonder if they can restore Houdaille for an Aprilia.

If they have the right tools, and know how to do it, it could be a solution, although difficult, with shipment to the US and back, and the costs....

There was also a Swiss address of another restorer, but he doesn't seem to exist anymore.

Maybe one could also ask Cavalitto!
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« Reply #389 on: 29 March, 2020, 07:49:53 PM »

I rebuilt one on my Ardea. It was very worn (completely shot) and needed building up with weld, re-machining, and re-bushing.
I did not document the process unfortunately.
The main body unscrews but it is very tight and needs to be tightened to the same position on re-assembly for the valve holes to be in the correct position to work.
The central rubber (?) operated adjustment mechanism was destroyed so I remade with a spool and "O" rings
The construction is generally a bit like a semi rotary pump but with porting to allow fluid from one chamber to the other.
I filled it with oil and it worked.
It seems there are different types, the one here would not have worked with the type of silicone that solidifies when warmed up.
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