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« Reply #75 on: 18 March, 2016, 11:00:14 AM »


Great to hear you got a really proper run.

Isn't darting round at low speed is sort of what it is supposed to do  Smiley

I guess the game now is to speak to any and everyone who's got one and see what makes the difference.  Is there anything on it you CAN'T adjust???
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« Reply #76 on: 18 March, 2016, 03:08:13 PM »


Great to hear you got a really proper run.

Isn't darting round at low speed is sort of what it is supposed to do  Smiley

I guess the game now is to speak to any and everyone who's got one and see what makes the difference.  Is there anything on it you CAN'T adjust???
I am not going to adjust the roof (Stan) as I have a spare scoop that came with the car but thse are only fitted to Gp4 rally cars, and although mine has a round arch Grp4 body and tyres etc I am not interested in a liveried paint scheme ruining "Shades" of grey paint.... I will be down the plumbers merchants to knock up the approved additional side window positive airflow vent system made out of drain pipe elbows.

The clonk turned out to be a top mount coming loose :-( (large spring washer had failed). All sorted now. Am planning to get it measured for alignment to see how far out my home made measurements and adjustment are. Yes you can adjust everything. A dream car to work on (or as some would say - mess up).
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« Reply #77 on: 27 June, 2016, 08:43:11 AM »

Gound hog day yesterday.

Nine months after arriving on a trailer Shades returns under own motive force (not steam!) on a 250 mile inaugural run out to LMC AGM. Even stopped on M11 for 20 minutes on way home and temperature gauge (the only gauge the driver sees....) moved up a bit, she did not lose any water or use any oil. Result. Handling was great too so long as you concentrated!


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« Reply #78 on: 27 June, 2016, 08:54:36 AM »

Also won its class (mind you it was on its own....).

Snowy was a bit fed up though being in such a hot car. (Mobile sauna).

Thanks Mark Hall (and partner) and Alison Ure for organising the weekend.


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« Reply #79 on: 27 June, 2016, 10:56:17 AM »

Shades looked amazing at the AGM;D

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« Reply #80 on: 27 June, 2016, 11:08:05 AM »

Presume you drove it at 50 ? Cheesy

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« Reply #81 on: 27 June, 2016, 01:12:01 PM »

Presume you drove it at 50 ? Cheesy



50 what?? 3000 in top is totally illegal......
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« Reply #82 on: 27 June, 2016, 08:02:17 PM »

50 "shades" I assumed Smiley
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« Reply #83 on: 14 February, 2017, 05:16:23 PM »

Over the autumn I formulated a plan to try and understand what was wrong with the handling of Shades. Before I committed to my plan I thought I would have the setup redone just to see if it was a simple fix. So the car was booked into a local race shop (John Danby Racing) where the corner weights were checked (OK) and the toe, camber and caster were set (nothing too far out of line). After a test drive the senior engineer pronounced the car too stiff and recommended lowering the spring rate at the front. I was uneasy with this as the springs were later measured and found to be to the correct 325lb specification. I knew the rear shocks/springs were suspect and later found the rear springs were only 200lb rated and bottomed easily. I then decided on a plan of action (which took 2 months to execute).

So what did I do:

Found minuscule play in steering rack track rod (replaced with new/remanufacured unit from Rimmer Bros)
Found play in the bottom steering shaft/rack knuckle (bolt loose)
Found adjuster seized on front Spax coil overs (replaced with Gaz coil-over 325 lb units)
Had LEDA shocks rebuilt by LEDA and fitted higher rate 325lb springs.
Set bump steer to mild toe in on both compression and droop (<.6mm toe-in over max travel)
Set corner weights (tricky with 37.5/62.5% front/back ratio)
Set Caster to 5degrees
Set rear camber -0.3deg
Set Front camber -1.0
Front toe-in 1.5mm per side
Rear toe-in 1.0 mm per side
Tyre pressures 24psi
Adjusted ARB push rods as they had changed after all this adjusting.
Ground clearance measured at front back of tub 178mm Rear 168mm front.

After 2 months rebuild of of steering and suspension Shades finally came out of the workshop and into sunshine. A short test drive of some 20 miles showed that she is Transformed and has much nicer steering feel than previously.

I can sense self-centring which was not there before.

Happywith this as a starting point!
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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia HFR
1972 1600 HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1978 Transformer HF3000 Strato's replica
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
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« Reply #84 on: 14 February, 2017, 05:31:51 PM »

Hopefully she will be much nicer (and less scary) to drive ....
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« Reply #85 on: 14 February, 2017, 05:34:43 PM »

Hopefully she will be much nicer (and less scary) to drive ....
Loving it so far!!! I might just reduce the toe in after a bit more evaluation.
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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia HFR
1972 1600 HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1978 Transformer HF3000 Strato's replica
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi.e.
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« Reply #86 on: 14 February, 2017, 05:35:05 PM »

Do you think it was a lot of little things or "something wrong"?
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