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« on: 08 July, 2015, 12:23:05 PM »

Hi All,

Grrrr....I'm sure my GT knows when its MOT time...working perfectly until the day before the test is booked. Then the fuel pump packs up (again)

Its the final straw - I'm giving up on the Mechanical fuel pump (after giving it one last chance last year when it was rebuilt for the second time) and going to a Faucet electric pump. I was reaching for the birch twig a la John Cleese for a moment and then realised a Morris 1100 has tougher bodywork than my GT!

I don't know whether its the quality of the replacement parts that are not up to it or wether the design of the mechanical pump is basically flawed - after all Lancia themselves went to an electric pump for later Flaminias. Either way I'm ditching originality for reliability (hopefully)

Anyway - rant over - More to come as I work out how to fit it with the minimum of destructive changes!

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« Reply #1 on: 08 July, 2015, 02:51:58 PM »

Hi All,

Grrrr....I'm sure my GT knows when its MOT time...working perfectly until the day before the test is booked. Then the fuel pump packs up (again)

Its the final straw - I'm giving up on the Mechanical fuel pump (after giving it one last chance last year when it was rebuilt for the second time) and going to a Faucet electric pump. I was reaching for the birch twig a la John Cleese for a moment and then realised a Morris 1100 has tougher bodywork than my GT!

I don't know whether its the quality of the replacement parts that are not up to it or wether the design of the mechanical pump is basically flawed - after all Lancia themselves went to an electric pump for later Flaminias. Either way I'm ditching originality for reliability (hopefully)

Anyway - rant over - More to come as I work out how to fit it with the minimum of destructive changes!

Cheers
Dave



Sorry to hear of your problems Dave, the joys of Lancia ownership! you'd think after all the love and attention, besides the money we spend on them, they would be at least a little appreciative Roll Eyes
Although I only have the electric fuel pump on "Fay" to prime the carburettors my electric pump is fitted right by the tank, something I read the other day, although I can't remember where, stated it was the best place for one, the added advantage is it's out of sight instead of being 'in your face' under the bonnet.
Good luck, got me worried now as "Fay" is due her MOT soon.

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« Reply #2 on: 08 July, 2015, 03:01:00 PM »

My Flaminia's electric fuel pump is in the boot on the near side in the well behind the wheel arch. It has a ribbed rubber covered aluminium panel to enclose it.

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« Reply #3 on: 08 July, 2015, 03:04:42 PM »

Mine. In the boot


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« Reply #4 on: 08 July, 2015, 04:08:14 PM »

Hi Dave

I thought you sorted this last December hence http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7586.0

Put your order in for a new pump as soon as, as don't want to miss the 25th? 
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« Reply #5 on: 08 July, 2015, 05:38:58 PM »

Hopefully it's only me that gets theMOT curse this year!

In December after much consideration I decided to give the mechanical pump another chance and rebuilt it to keep it original - in hindsight I should have just erred on the side of reliability and gone electric.

Not sure about boot mounting due to the main and reserve tank pipes - if I fit upstream I avoid much cutting and can return to original very easily. Take the point on this being more in your face under the bonnet - but if it works in hoping not to have to lift the bonnet quite so often!

I'll have it sorted soon!

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« Reply #6 on: 09 July, 2015, 09:37:42 AM »

I know both myself and Tim Heath (and probably many others) have Facet pumps under the bonnet on our Fulvias. I've never had any problems with it as far as vapourisation etc is concerned. Not sure what the advantages/disadvantages are of near the tank or in the engine bay.
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« Reply #7 on: 09 July, 2015, 10:38:12 AM »

I know both myself and Tim Heath (and probably many others) have Facet pumps under the bonnet on our Fulvias. I've never had any problems with it as far as vapourisation etc is concerned. Not sure what the advantages/disadvantages are of near the tank or in the engine bay.
I was once told it depends on the pump being either a "pusher" or a "puller".
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« Reply #8 on: 09 July, 2015, 02:22:05 PM »

I know both myself and Tim Heath (and probably many others) have Facet pumps under the bonnet on our Fulvias. I've never had any problems with it as far as vapourisation etc is concerned. Not sure what the advantages/disadvantages are of near the tank or in the engine bay.
I was once told it depends on the pump being either a "pusher" or a "puller".
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I believe that the common Facet is a pusher but this did not deter me to fit it in a puller mode (ie under the bonnet).
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« Reply #9 on: 10 July, 2015, 09:30:35 AM »

Yes - mine is a Facet Silver Top and it was Martin Cliffe who advised me to fit it to the inner wing.
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« Reply #10 on: 10 July, 2015, 12:53:52 PM »

Facet now fitted under the bonnet and working.

Now for that MOT... hopefully the curse only strikes once  Wink

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« Reply #11 on: 14 July, 2015, 09:27:50 AM »

I'm pleased to report the curse was a one shot deal. MOT passed with no advisories.

Actually the new fuel pump makes a big difference to starting - it's first time even when cold. No more waiting for the mechanical pump to get its act together - so less cranking the engine with low oil pressure - always a good thing!

Now where was that summer?
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