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« on: 01 May, 2015, 01:45:17 PM »

I bought this photo at the Bicester Heritage Meeting on Sunday, I'm sure it's an Augusta, but what body?
And what's the big saloon next to it.
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« Reply #1 on: 01 May, 2015, 02:23:28 PM »

I have no idea .... but I cannot stop asking myself the question, 'did he buy a photograph or a car'? Please advise.

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« Reply #2 on: 01 May, 2015, 02:27:39 PM »

Having now stopped being silly, I have had another look at the photograph. Is the bonnet not a little too long for an Augusta. Then it does not look imposing enough to be an Astura. Someone must know, a little help please.

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« Reply #3 on: 01 May, 2015, 03:42:33 PM »

Looks like Ron Francis' Astura...
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« Reply #4 on: 01 May, 2015, 04:00:21 PM »

Brian,

I think this handsome car is a Bianchi.

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« Reply #5 on: 01 May, 2015, 04:04:12 PM »

Not an Augusta.
Too long bonnet to be an Artena on wire wheels. My first thought because of the seemingly small wheel spinners.
Assume it is a 3rd series Astura, around 1935. Pillarless Pinin Farina 4 door sedan.
Some other Pinin Farina 3rd series have exactly the same bonnet, with 5 openings.
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« Reply #6 on: 01 May, 2015, 05:05:29 PM »

Cesare may be right!
Not a Lancia! The radiator is not Lancia like at all (top part)!
And this would explain the too small wheel spinners for an Astura.
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« Reply #7 on: 01 May, 2015, 07:56:53 PM »

For comparison, here is a photo of the 'Ron Francis Astura' as it was on the Sliding Pillar Rally in 2002.

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« Reply #8 on: 01 May, 2015, 11:32:17 PM »

I  must admit my recognition of the older models isn't what it could be, but I thought it looked like an Augusta Grille Huh?

It certainly didn't look like the few Asturas I've ever seen,  which seemed somewhat bigger.

Cesare, looking again at the photo with a glass I still think it's a Lancia, it's not clear enough to see the badge to say definitily it's Lancia, but it's a round badge and it looks similar to other Lancia badges i've seen, but thats about as far as I'm prepared to go.
I'll try to remember to bring the photo with me to Brooklands tomorrow if anyone wants a closer look at it.

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« Reply #9 on: 02 May, 2015, 12:56:55 PM »

Here for comparison the Astura I was thinking about.



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« Reply #10 on: 02 May, 2015, 07:03:33 PM »

Definitely not Lancia I think Cesare is right, see link below.

https://www.motorbase.com/picture/profile/2008/09/22/bianchi-s9/

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« Reply #11 on: 03 May, 2015, 05:48:04 PM »

Although it may be a Bianchi, and the wheel spinners do seem similar, I notice that a lot of Bianchi' of the period had very similar bodywork to contemporary Lancias. Also Ron Francis' Astura shows not all coach built Lancias has the corporate grille.

Here are some Bianchi pictures, the earliest one has a round badge with an imperial eagle but ones contemporary with Brian's picture seem to have gone over to an oblong badge.



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« Reply #12 on: 04 May, 2015, 12:14:08 AM »

Here for comparison the Astura I was thinking about.


Distinct likeness, although the grille is definitely different to my photo.

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« Reply #13 on: 04 May, 2015, 12:16:34 AM »


Definitely not Lancia I think Cesare is right, see link below.

https://www.motorbase.com/picture/profile/2008/09/22/bianchi-s9/

Don

Sorry Don, but I don't see the likeness to my photo Huh? Huh?

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« Reply #14 on: 04 May, 2015, 12:18:28 AM »

Brian,

I think this handsome car is a Bianchi.

Cesare

Cesare,
Have you a particular photo of a Bianchi in mind?

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