Fanalone restoration

[ncundy]

Seems like a sensible way to do it, might try the pressurisation trick myself - thanks.

It's worth adding of course that until I run mine I wont know if that works either

[lancialulu]

All I can say is that when I extracted the pump and "spun" the rotor shaft by hand it felt v stiff so I thought the bearing had gone. Not so as bearing beautifully smooth. Cleaning up and polishing the rotor seal face and reassembled it "spun" smoothly as my backup new spare.

Tim

[fay66]

Neil,
Very good thread, is there any chance of a blow by blow write up for David's suggested technical section, in case anyone else decides they have sufficient skills and/or the facilities to do the same modifications themselves.


Brian
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[ncundy]

Brian, not forgotten your request just not got round to converting the sketches to decentish drawings yet!

The holiday season has rather slowed down progress but I've spent the last few weeks getting to know the interior again. I'd forgotten how many clips there are, how many were bust and how poor the TAV is in this area (note to self - you can never take too many photos!). It's been like doing a jigsaw without the box  

Anyway, after a few weeks identifying what was need, who sells it and how it goes together I've completed the trial run. The most difficult bit..........fitting the bloody heater. It's only four bolts but took me about 3 hours and a half broken back. It's in and it ain't coming out again. Several bits needed a good going over, particularly the heater controls and the associated cables. The ashtray was stripped and re-crinkle painted and I haven't yet finished the glove box lid. The plastic is all cracked so I've glued up the cracks and am making a thin aluminium backing plate which I shall bond on to give it the bit of robustness it is missing.

The best thing about the LMC do for me is the injection of enthusiasm and envy of those that are actually able to drive their cars. Came at just the right time for me  

Onwards and upwards.

[fay66]

Thanks Neil,
She's looking great, whatever you do don't despair as when you eventually get to drive her, all the doubts will disappear like magic
That ahtray looks very much like the one in my 2c, I'll have to have a look as I know I have at least one spare.
Any chance of getting a glove box lid in better condition off of ebay Italy or elswhere, I would have thought there would be some about still.
With you 100% on the photos, as I've sometimes forgot what went where in the space of a day or 2, but with digital cameras in phones it's so easy now.
Like yourself, although my heater is a bit different, I thought "Never Again" but I'm still saying that after having had to have it out 3 times so far, and I still get bugger all heat at the cabin end , can't believe anyone could have designed a heater that is so hard to get at, but knowing how manufacturers stick cars together, the heater would have probably have gone in before any of the dash and associated items went in.
Sorry I missed you at the AGM due to me arriving at 3.15pm.

Brian
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[ncundy]

I have in my mind this vision of them suspending the heater from two bits of string across the assembly hall and slowly building the car around, above and beneath it !

The glove box lid will be fine when I've done. I've replaced very little of the car in reality, I've a bit of an obsession with originality where appropriate  and I don't mind a bit of patina so I've purposely avoided buying new or better where possible.

We must have just passed at the AGM, I didn't see your car otherwise I'd have stopped a bit longer.

[ncundy]

Although I haven't posted for a while I've not been idle

Sorting out the trim has been far more of a jigsaw puzzle than I anticipated. Getting the box down from the roof was the high point! There must be about 378 different permutations of which only one is correct - I am now expert in at least 350 of them  

After about a month of trying to solve the puzzle, understand how the door and windows can and should be adjusted, getting stuff cleaned and made I'm off again.

All the trim on the passenger side is now in, the window runners are now set up (although final set up can't be done until the seals are in) and the rear side window is in. I've taken all the horrible little metal clips out and bedded everything on a  smearing of silicon to protect the paint. Along the way I had to get a new metal frame for the bottom of the front quarter light made up (courtesy of my dad), knock out and re-braise in new screws for the rear side window and fettle and pack all the window runners and mechanism.

So moving along again nicely now and something to show for the work - closer to the finish line than the start  

[fay66]

Looking good Neil,
final straight coming up, hope we shall see her next year.

Brian
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[DavidLaver]

Has the trim been the trickest bit to date?

David

[ncundy]

Brian,
I had to take the Multipla in today for it's MOT. Rob whose done all our family's MOT's since before I can remember, asked "when am I going to MOT that bloody Fulvia": summer next year I promised - gulp!

David,
I think certainly the most frustrating. My own fault through not taking enough photos or notes when I took it all off, and thinking it would be straight forwards.

To give an indication I decided to do the passenger side first (to "learn my trade" so to speak). I sorted everything out and cleaned, polished and repaired everything (for one side) and went and got all the fixings (if anyone wants any 2.2 or 2.9mm stainless steel self tappers I've got hundreds of them).

I started by bedding the side window in its runner. When I fitted it I found I'd selected the correct runner but not the correct glass (they have a small but perceptible curve to them - they are handed), so I had to take it all to bits again. I then fitted it and put  in the rear glass runner but I couldn't get it to sit far enough back (to give a nice line on the window to bodyshell when shut) - it was fouling against the top of the door. So I had remove it all, take out the felt runner I'd glued in and trim the top of the metal runner, repaint it then put it all back again; probably never sat correctly from the factory.

The large rubber seal stainless steel trim that runs around the bodyshell looks the same both sides, but on the front A pillar it has (again!) a slight curvature. I fitted it from the back forward - so after all my careful preparation and fitting (cleaning, polishing, lining up and fettling 2mm screw holes), including a dry run; how I didn't notice I don't know, I bed it in silicon get to the last two screws and find I've prepared and fitted the wrong one. So it all has to come out again............and so it went on!

All that said, there is a satisfaction that now I know, and I can see that it is going back properly. Hopefully the drivers side should be a lot easier, if only because they'll be the only bits of trim I've got left in the box (if you reduce the opportunities for the fool to make mistakes, he will make less mistakes ).

[DavidLaver]

But no disasters anyway...  Nothing damaged, everything cleaned up well.  I'm guessing it was all pretty well perfect before you started.

Any tips for glues, or unglueing?

David

[lancialulu]

Neil

Its looking great. Didnt realise that you has painted it white (or is the light?)?

Tim

[lancialulu]

Seems like a sensible way to do it, might try the pressurisation trick myself - thanks.

It's worth adding of course that until I run mine I wont know if that works either

Update - which I should have done earlier in the summer re my water pump issue. It didnt work, as I refitted it ran it and it was absolutley fine. Then next morning puddle on the ground. When running no leak, but static I suspect the seal bellows spring had rusted somewhat and lost its push on the seal. Very curious. Needless to say I had to fit my spare new pump for a trip to Pembrokeshire, and it has performed very well since.

Stripping the old pump (again) I could not see why it leaked. I may get round to doing Neils resealing mod some time if the prices of spare pumps continue to rise.

Tim

[ncundy]

It's the light Tim, its Grigio Escoli (a sort of metallic silver grey).

Generally the trim was in good nick, but pretty much every bit needed some tweeking here and there (planishing down raised screw holes, straightening tatty ends etc). Then a good clean and polish.

Taking the trim off is really just a "gently does it" approach. Small screwdrivers wrapped in paper I think I used. For the small self tappers I bought a new sharp screw driver but even then I bet 50% rounded off.

I haven't glued anything yet as all the window trim is retained with small self tappers, but I have seated everything on beads of silicon. The rationale for that is that it will ease the installation preventing hopefully the paint being scratched and also, when set, prevent water getting in underneath the trim, which inevitably capillary's up/down the screw threads and attacks the bare metal in the hole where you have put the self tappers. Nearly all these small screws were rusted on mine. Some broke when I took them out and nearly all the small holes had rust around them - nothing major but it always starts somewhere.

The push on trim (around the seams) I'll probably use No More Nails or some such - I'm certainly not putting those dreaded spring clips back!

[rodney3010]

Hi Neil
I've been using this thread as valuable info for a while but now can't access the website you originally set up. Do you have a new address?
Rodney