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« Reply #1 on: 09 May, 2014, 02:19:27 PM » |
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The estimate you give is correct, but in EUR, not USD.
To get the figure in USD you have to multiply by 1.38.
Seems a very high estimate to me, at least twice the price of an excellent B20.
Will it sell?
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« Reply #2 on: 09 May, 2014, 03:05:55 PM » |
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Thankyou, Euros of course. Will it sell? Well I suppose if one can't quite stretch to the B24s at €750-950
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« Reply #3 on: 11 May, 2014, 03:18:37 PM » |
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I was mistaken, the Flaminia Zagato did sell, it was sold for an incredible price: 571.200 EUR according to the RM website today.
It had what it takes to succeed:
iconic design
rarity
what looks like a perfect restoration, in the best colors
and maybe a complete history.
All other Lancias also sold:
the D50A recreation for 812.000 EUR
The B24 spider for 784.000 EUR (that is more than 1 Mio. USD, which seems to be the going price now for excellent spiders!)
The Fulvia HF for 84.000 EUR
So the market seems still strong, for well presented cars.
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« Reply #4 on: 11 May, 2014, 05:17:12 PM » |
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A Flaminia record I assume? Anyone got a crystal ball?
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« Reply #5 on: 11 May, 2014, 05:20:15 PM » |
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Sebastien keeps an auction results page on the Viva Lancia site.
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« Reply #6 on: 21 May, 2014, 03:35:31 PM » |
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I see the current VL page number six has a column which mentions Flaminia Sport prices. €100,000+, albeit March 2014. Does anyone here know of any of the Sport 'bargains to be found in France and the UK'?
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« Reply #7 on: 21 May, 2014, 06:04:39 PM » |
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It was the mythical 2000 euro Flavia Super Jollies I wondered about - are there really any about any more?
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« Reply #8 on: 21 May, 2014, 06:19:21 PM » |
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seems VL article is way out of date then even by months the prices are going exponential for the rare models. All lancias are iconic IMHO....
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi
1998 Zeta
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« Reply #9 on: 21 May, 2014, 06:36:17 PM » |
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Aurelia B24 Spider (America) €250,000. Condition is not mentioned in the published price guide?, although 'Banger' (which means project I expect) is of course in the title.
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Sebastien
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« Reply #10 on: 21 May, 2014, 07:03:25 PM » |
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Just a few comments:
Those Ruoteclassiche values are for what they call a 100% car / Prezzo Ruoteclassiche
Vetture di bon livello, originali, ben conservate, oppure restaurate correttamente. Vetture omologate Asi o di sicura omologazione.
I would translate as: Cars at a good level, original, in good conservation, or well restored. Cars with Asi homologation, or certain to be homologated.
Ruoteclassiche values have always been all over the place. For example a B24 spider has the same quotation as a Lambda 1st series.
When have you seen a Lambda, even 1st series, sell for the same price as an Aurelia spider?
And is any Lambda, even in their 100% condition, worth 200.000 €?
Quotations for Lambdas are too high, while Aurelia spiders have always been too low!
And why should an Astura then be worth 80.000 €?
Does it make sense to give a quotation for an Aurelia B55/ B56 of which there were maybe 6 to 10 chassis built, all with one-off bodies, from an iconic Florida II, to a strange Ghia body?
And finally, do you think you will today find a (really 100%) Appia 1st series for 8.000 €?
So it is best to take those values with a grain of salt, and to do your homework!
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